Mark’s notes: Prior to Kris’ appearance Lida made some comments.
One was how Kris often pauses, sometime in length to ponder before he answers a question. The other comment that she made was how much she enjoys the meditations that he gives us and how they seem to work better when we do them with him as opposed to doing them on our own. She said that she hopes that he would give us a new meditation tonight.
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Session Begins 7:28 PM
KRIS: Now we thank you for having taken the time to come to share and indeed we will also act as if Andrea is still here.
LIDA: She probably still is, <laughter> or at least her higher self.
KRIS: Your earlier discussion was most indeed interesting. <Referring to Lida’s question as to why Kris sometimes pauses to think when answering a question.>
When there is for example a momentary pause or one that takes a few moments of your time, it is often because the questions that are asked have the potential to lead off into several if not MANY probabilities and we do try to make a concerted effort to rummage through as many of them as possible to give the best answer at our disposal. There are other times when the question asked differs from the intent, perhaps even slightly but sufficiently enough to enable us to work at different levels simultaneously to provide an answer that addresses both issues, the one that is conscious and the one that is not made at the conscious level, the one that is still simmering beneath the surface, the one where the issues are not yet resolved.
And there are other times where there is a need to reorganize some of the information that is more suitable in the here and now, making it more practical and less abstract. Does that give you a sufficient answer?
LIDA: Yes, very much so.
KRIS: Imagine that you are on the ground toiling about your daily business while there is someone on the high tower near by and you ask that individual at the top of the tower which may be hundreds of feet above the ground, to look about into the distance and tell you what they see. Though sometimes you may have never ventured very far from the tower itself, the individual in the tower may not only have seen into the distance but may have actually been in those places as well and now has to make sure that what he or she sees and understands is explained in such a manner that the individual on the ground asking the question can understand what is being talked about.
So it has to be worded in such a manner that the one doing the inquiring actually understands in some way, what is being said. Otherwise the answers are meaningless. Does that make some sense?
LIDA: Yes, you gave a very good example Kris.
KRIS: Now we believe that you had some questions. (Pointing at Mark).
MARK: Yes. Last week you were telling us about using suggestion to create ‘coolness’ on those really hot days and nights. I was wondering if you would give us some ‘actual’ suggestions and a better example in order to clarify that.
LIDA: Or vice-versa, right?
MARK: I was having difficulty using the auto-suggestion. I didn’t know what to say, what to think.
KRIS: We did think that it was worded in such a manner that would have made it relatively easy for you to understand that if you are focusing constantly upon the heat and how it is bothersome and how it is stifling and how it is making you sweaty and hot and that you would actually take your attention away from that concentration and gently focus instead upon the cooling effects of the sweat on your body for instance. As well as utilizing whatever air currents are in your room or space that are available to further add to the cooling effect. The main point is to take your mind away from your object of distress and change your focus where you actually do feel the coolness because it is there. You just need to enhance it. Do you understand?
MARK: Yes, thank you.
LIDA: Would it help to visualize snow for instance or is it better to not think about it?
KRIS: If you start concentrating on snow then you are expending efforts to countermand the heat so you are still doing the same. Do you understand?
So by focusing instead on what you are ignoring, meaning the cooling effects of the breezes and your sweat should be sufficient to draw your mind and your attention AWAY FROM and INTO the already cooling effects of the environment upon your body, even if ever so slightly. Then you can enhance and magnify that cooling effect.
LIDA: How does it work for being too cold?
KRIS: You can then focus upon the heat that is generated by the blood circulating within your veins and throughout you body, the natural heat of the core of your body. Do you understand?
Now this does imply that you will be practical, that in a high heat environment you will not start running and jogging and building a house but that you will out of practical purpose still lay low. The same will apply when it is winter for instance so that then you will not go about shoveling snow in nothing but Bermuda shorts. <laughter>.
It is also a matter of being practical and down to Earth. If you step out in the cold of winter make sure that you are properly dressed but you can use the natural heating and cooling effects to enhance the body in either situation. Does that make sense?
MARK: I was wondering if it is possible if you could describe to us ‘what other projects that we might be doing as an essence’. For instance I know that ONE of the things that Philip is doing is incarnating as Mark but what other things other than incarnation in physicality, in physical reality does the higher self do?
KRIS: As with all source selves there is always much more than simply taking care of the children so to speak. The source selves also see to the maintaining to the proper amounts of energy directed at each of its own aspects, whether you call them reincarnational selves, probable selves, counterparts and so on and so forth. Thus there is always a free flow of energetic exchanges between the source and the aspects or focuses because the focuses are an expression of the source and only different in the focuses perceptions. Do you understand?
At the same time the source selves acts as an intermediary, a center for information exchange between all the variousfocuses, providing a vast network through which the experiences of each focus personality provide conceptual data that can be organized and shared to all others and vice-versa. Do you understand that?
That alone is an enormous task on its own. Then there is the matter of all of the various probabilities and dream dimensions where all of the aspects of the source are also involved. So the source self for instance may also further project into the dream realities of each focus personality under whatever guise is necessary to provide a learning environment, a place and a space where that focus personality, somewhat removed from its regular environment can have the opportunity to reflect upon larger concepts of existence AND further reflect on its own abilities to create its own reality.
Thus with source it will experiment with various notions of emotions and their intensities of concentrations. This may even involve the source self bringing in the dream self of other personalities into environment where there are similar lessons to be learnt together, creating a sort of class room environment for instance and this may also include focus personalities of other source selves who are on a similar learning curve. Do you follow?
These psychological atmospheres are also partially generated by the source self to provide the opportunity to enrich the value fulfillment potential, not only of its own source self but each of the focus personalities engaged in the activities of that moment.
That moment point represents actions of a very deep and energetic nature that may cascade forward into the lives of the focus personalities in daily living terms, thus again providing stepping stones to discoveries of selfhood.
Source selves do function separately from the combined units of the gestalts that they are. They also function with all of the sums of their own parts. Do you follow?
These are some of the events in the days of the source self. An interesting soap opera for sure!<laughter>
If you grasp the extent of those kinds of activities you will also understand that it generates countless other actions from each one, each one act generating countless others. That is the purpose of value fulfillment for each unit or aspect of the gestalt and still, were they ever combined they would still not amount to the whole. That is the meaning of a gestalt. There are always interesting generational activities in those terms and not in your human terms.
MARK: That is definitely food for thought.
KRIS: Please feel free to continue.
MARK: You I believe notified Joseph that you wanted to talk about the magnetic trains, the high speed trains that we watched on the Discovery Channel?
KRIS: Indeed. Not so much about the choo-choo train, but more specifically about the electromagnetic properties of the propellers. Now your physicists are much involved in the studying of these electromagnetic platforms which in themselves are a type of propeller working in conjunction with the train. Further experimentation will lead to the discovery of using such devices for a variety of purposes other than propelling TRAINS at high speeds from one end of the country to another.
LIDA: Can you give us an example?
KRIS: Indeed what you are looking at in certain ways is the beginnings of your ‘anti-gravity devices’ found in so many science fiction stories. Do you understand?
Eventually the manufacturing of such can be that smaller and smaller devices are created to produce these electromagnetic fields which will counter balance the effects of your gravity. As you understand poorly the nature of gravity in your physics and in your dimension to the point where it might eventually be realized that some ancient plates found in many of the ancient cultures that have built large monuments such as the pyramids, you may understand that some of these large plates were in a way, the result of devices similar to your modern electromagnetic plates and the effects that they produce. Do you understand?
So in other words, instead of playing with the foolish idea that it took hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Egyptians and slaves to haul blocks of stone weighing several tons up steep inclines made of sand, your physicists will suddenly realize that there is an alternative answer. Some of these gigantic stone structures may actually have been built by a primitive proto type device similar now to what they have discovered with these electromagnetic plates. Do you understand?
LIDA: May I ask a question? When there would be many of these types of devices wouldn’t it affect our health?
KRIS: If properly constructed it should not interfere because your own physical bodies have their own electromagnetic field.
LIDA: Yes but wouldn’t they be affected?
KRIS: If they are properly constructed they should not. Certain grounding measures can be built into them and we are certain that they will discover this as they already have with the trains. Otherwise the electromagnetic fields of the bodies of the passengers would be adversely affected. It is a matter of properly grounding the devices. Do you follow?
And these things are far less dangerous than the modern electrical towers that cause undo problems. Do you understand?
MARK: I do. Yes.
LIDA: I don’t.
MARK: You know the big hydro lines that run through a lot of neighborhoods? They are starting to discover that people who live near them are developing cancers and other illnesses. They are harmful!
LIDA: Yes. That was actually the basis for my question.
KRIS: Indeed as such further refinements of that science, if they venture into it has the potential to actually replace the modern ways of piping electrical currents into houses, eventually eliminating the need to wire a house per say which in itself has not changed much in a hundred and fifty years. Do you understand that?
MARK: Yes. Would that method be a lot cheaper or free?
KRIS: I doubt that your Utility Barons would ever allow something for FREE <laughter> but its productions once properly established and discovered will make it reasonably more affordable AND will eliminate the need to drain many of the Earth’s resources including fossil fuels but this is not going to happen tomorrow.
MARK: Ahhh! <laughter>
LIDA: I was just going to ask if it was going to happen in our lifetime. <giggling>
MARK: I suddenly got a picture in my mind of a new grid using this new theory but would it allow anybody to tap into it anywhere, such as an automobile even or other types of devices where ever you? <are or happen to be>
KRIS: It would require quite literally a deep change in the way consumers consume their goods in this specific respect. It would also require a change of attitude in terms of how people use the resources available to them. This can produce something quite magnificent but it would require changing your society’s views from its present wasteful state to one of properly utilizing the resources available so that all of life may benefit from it. Does that make sense?
LIDA: Are we slowly starting this process in our society?
KRIS: Indeed. There is still an unwillingness to properly use the present resources at your disposal, where waste of resources is an enormous problem. Thus the manufacturing of goods will have to be reviewed and revised. The consumption of these goods would also have to be revised. Individuals would have to and develop different and very conscientious perception of what they use and how they use the resources available to them.
Whilst you have North American consumption to such a high degree with such a high degree of waste, there are entire nations in other parts of the world who have barely enough resources to grow a handful of foodstuffs on daily basis. Do you understand?
So there is an imbalance in the production and the consumption of goods whether it is food or otherwise. This electromagnetic potential could see redistribution in an equalitarian manner where all are treated equally, even more so than now. Your Charters in North America like to state that all are born equal and yet your lifestyles indicate that you are not congruent with your philosophical truths. Correct?
MARK and LIDA: Oh yes very true.
KRIS: And at the same time many in your North American western society profess a great need to help others and again there is an in congruency here, for your governments can easily waste hundreds of millions and billions of dollars on some frivolities and neglect the poor and the starving in their own back yard, acting as if there are no such conditions. Do you follow?
That is part of the previous conversation on the ‘Shift of Consciousness’ where eventually the incongruities will be made very visible and very clear and will be unavoidable or undeniable. Everyone eventually will be accountable for their use of resources of the Earth, the use of their thoughts and their energies, if not in this lifetime then in another.
Not because there is a cosmic committee set up to judge and inquire but your OWN self requires that you understand how you create your own reality, and when you disengage yourself from the process reality is then created for you by default. In other words you become a victim or at least you believe that you are a victim of events and circumstances because you have denied the truth that you are still the master of your fate. Do you follow?
So there is much potential to develop these electromagnetic possibilities and there are several probabilities where this has gone further than in this reality. Experimentations are being done on other levels of reality that may eventually flow into this one where it may even be developed differently but in line with the consciousness development potentials of your civilizations in this field of events. Does this make sense?
When we use the term ‘field of events’ it is the outer field of events in your physical terms, in this reality and there is the inner field of events where these realities are actually connected. There are gateways, bleed-throughs occur and knowledge that is developed in another probability does come through and inspire individuals here as individuals here inspire others in another place and so on and so forth. Because there are no closed systems there are exchanges being done, experiments tried out, potentials looked into and when there is a sufficient momentums in your reality then the breakthroughs come about.
Men and women make discoveries. Not because it did not exist but because they see it for the first time and there is a difference much like those optical illusion pictures. You may see the profile of an old hag and by changing your focus you see something entirely different. Does it mean that it was never there? Indeed not. You just did not see it.
Thus there are bleed-throughs from all levels of reality and all probabilities on your planet. Sometimes these bleed-throughs manifest themselves as the remnants of an ancient culture or civilization or of creatures or at least their remnants. Because your Paleontologists are so obsessed with finding the missing link they will seek until they themselves become the missing link, because even events from your future may leave imprints and objects into your past.
Artifacts may actually come from a probable reality, a probable future or even a totally different type of past and who knows what is discovered from your time and your plane of existence into the past and the futures or even the presents of other realities altogether. What are the paleontologists of another dimension discovering, where your planet is, in terms of their dimensions? Do you understand?
LIDA: Vaguely.
KRIS: In the same time and place there could be several dimensions. Thus in another dimension that occupies the same space in the time continuum but may exist in a different time zone they may be discovering in their past that things that may be future in a thousand years from now. Does that make some sense?
MARK: Why is it always pottery? <laughter>
KRIS: It is cheap to make. <more laughter> There are other artifacts, other types of things that go unnoticed.
MARK: Because we aren’t ready to see them…
KRIS: And because your societies do not believe that there could be anything else even though it is right there.
MARK: Just like pyramids.
KRIS: Indeed. Now take a break.
8:10 PM
Mark’s Notes: Kris just gave us a crash course in the mechanics of the new and evolving science of ‘Quantum Temporal Science’.
During this short break, I believe that I made a comment something to the effect of remembering Kris telling us how the Ancient Egyptians used sound to move the blocks into place on the great pyramids.
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8:13 PM Break Ends
KRIS: Now one of the aspects of this electromagnetic field is the creation of specific sound waves which are generated by the field. This has yet to be discovered and understood properly. The key will lie in the expansion of this type of science. This is what many of the ancient cultures had already discovered. The creation of very specific sound waves, some of which could be created by the human body and the mind whilst others can be created through the use of implements, instruments. We are not talking about musical instruments here.
But if a closer study of these electromagnetic properties is done then very specific type of sound field is generated and this is what they will focus upon. As to its potential development, the determining factor in your civilization is the practical application of this type of science.
So the scientific community is more or less responsible in a certain way. There are already very many different inventions that could have served Utilitarian and Utopian purposes, altruistic that have disappeared. But there are some that will make their way into the social context.
Years ago there was the possibility of creating devices and vehicles that ran quite specifically on combining the energy released from water molecules and electrical properties together but these things were quietly removed from the scene. Altogether this means that the collective decisions will take precedence. Do you understand?
MARK: Yes. I think the rights to all these technologies were purchased by the oil companies to protect themselves.
KRIS: To a great degree but at the same time they did not act without the approval of the collective unconscious. Certain collective experiments will be ventured into and others will not. Those that are not ventured into by your specific reality may in fact be ventured into by another probability where there definitely are worlds that are powered by solar energy vastly different from the prototypes that you now have on your planet. We believe that we give Joseph some indications of this last summer.
MARK: That is with the spheres, the solar spheres.
KRIS: Indeed. This was a bleed through from another probability that still has somewhere the possibility to be explored in your reality since solar energy panels are still being used here. These are an evolved version <(?) not sure of exact word>. Do you understand?
So there are many such inventions, discoveries that may disappear because it may not quite be in line with the collective reality and its purpose. Do you follow?
So they fall off to the way side so to speak, by the side of the road but they do not become extinguished, they follow in other probabilities. Your probability is one where the use of fossil fuels became preeminent. In other probabilities there have been some small attempts to develop these refineries and so on but their collective made an understanding that other means would be more practical for their purposes therefore fossil fuels were never ventured into. Do you follow?
Each discovery not ventured into in your reality does not die. It flourishes somewhere else. In other probabilities those that fall by the way side may flourish here or other places as do your ideas. The choices you make and the choices that you do not make are equally as valid but your conscious focus once an idea is dropped off from the self so to speak, once it is dropped off into the precipice of the unknown it is no longer focused upon. Do you understand?
This includes the choices that you make in your daily lives. They, these thoughts, these ideas, these choices acted upon or not do not die or disappear simply because they have left the field of your thoughts.
For instance when you are in the theatre and you see on stage the scene illuminated by one or more spot lights. Does it mean that anything beyond the field of that light is suddenly non-existent? Of course not!
You do have an understanding that props are being brought in, things are happening behind stage, so many other activities but they are not focused upon because you are concentrating upon where the light is. Do you follow?
That beam of concentration where the light is, that is what you call consciousness. It is what you are focused upon at this moment.
So there are many activities that you did not choose, many actions which you did not take through out the course of your lives. Does the self that you are presently become less because it did not choose that action or did not follow that path or act upon that impulse or that decision? Indeed not, because there is an underlying understanding from yourself that though you may not have turned left or turned right a part of yourself did. Does that make sense?
Indeed. Now enjoy another small break.
8:24 Pm Break Starts
Mark’s notes: During break Lida again comments that she hopes that Kris will give us a meditation.
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8:30 PM Break Ends
KRIS: Therefore our previous brief excursion into probable selves of which you are one for as much as you would like to think that all of the other probable selves are merely probables, you are no different. You are a probable manifestation, expression, embodiment of the source self as all of the others are. Now this should also indicate to you that you have far more potentials or resources at your psychic, psychological finger tips than you can shake a finger at that you can tap into some of these probabilities or probable developments and do so in a practical manner than can indeed enrich your own line of development. It should also make you pause and ponder upon the very nature of selfhood that much more. Do you follow?
Now perhaps as we have heard through the grapevine that you wish a meditation but instead of a meditation we will describe an exercise that you can do on your own which will provide you many more benefits.
The idea is to either find a picture or a small object from many years back. Say a picture or an item from when you were twenty or thirty if such exists and with the picture or the object in your hand, try to bring back the memory of the time when you received the object or the picture was taken, preferably a picture of yourself. Focusing upon the picture or the object, either with your eyes closed or opened allow your inner stage, that place within you where your imagination has full range, that screen within the mind’s eye.
Focus upon that mental stage remembering the time, the moment, the impressions, the feelings, the memories, the surrounding events, the conditions around the time that you received the object or the picture was taken and allow yourselves to flow back and into a direction that you did not take at that time.
As an example let us say that the picture is from a birthday party when you were twenty. Holding that picture you would remember some of the people at your party, the gifts, the cake, the music, the fun, the environment, was it at your house, a friend’s house, who was there and who was not there and with that in mind what possible decisions were you pondering. Perhaps you had thought to speak with one particular person that you may have been drawn to speak with but instead you chose to speak with another person and from that moment on your present life went on.
But, what would have happened had you instead gone with your first impression, not spoken with person number two that you ended up speaking with but instead you went with the one that you were originally drawn to speak with and allow your imagination to lead you into the probable development.
What impacts, impressions, changes could have made to your life had you gone in that direction first? How differently, if there are any differences have come to your life through that stream of consciousness? Did this opportunity introduce you to yet other people, new friends, other friends, new acquaintances? Did this lead to perhaps a different job, a school, a move? How did those potential influences affect that stream of consciousness? And how does that make you feel today in your perspective?
Try and venture in that direction for perhaps ten minutes then bring yourself back. If you can make some notes. How does it affect you today? Do you discover that through such an exercise and adventure that somehow some of your thoughts may be ever so slightly different than the mood that you usually engage in?
A tide of new feelings may come out of this. Do you think that this may potentially change the person that you are in this here and now and at the same time do you perceive that the other individual with whom you are in that stream of consciousness with may have an inkling that its dreams or its impulses, its feelings may somehow or other be somewhat altered from your excursion into that stream of consciousness? Do you follow?
LIDA: By going through this exercise are you reaching to that person?
KRIS: Not so as much as reaching but as to simply observing your reaction. How would this now, perhaps ever so slightly enrich who you are and without you making any effort in that direction, the other you may ever so slightly, ever so subtly feel a small change like you would feel a slightly different gentle breeze when a different weather front comes into the neighborhood.
Or perhaps the sweet scent of lilacs that is carried upon a stream of air different from the general air in the neighborhood. Do you follow?
So there is no need to intrude upon the other individual that you are and you will not need to feel intruded upon. But these kinds of exercises can certainly let you understand that there are other lines of consciousness that exist parallel to your development in line with consciousness and this can have a profound impact into the understanding of selfhood itself and the potentials and the resources available to you. Do you follow?
Now what is the time?
MARK: 8:42
KRIS: Indeed. Do you have another question?
Mark and Lida shake their heads NO.
KRIS: Now we believe that there was an original question for instance.
MARK: <laughing> If you are referring to Kris slash Krishna, Serge was telling me that at least four other people have made reference to upon reading your name or hearing your name and cross referencing it with KRISHNA. Maybe you could expand upon that a little.
Mark’s notes: This question was mentioned early in the evening prior to the session beginning but I decided not to ask it because it seemed a little over the top. To me it was just a similar name with a similar spelling.
KRIS: Now it is quite flattering to be considered up there with a Hindu God. Unfortunately we do not have so many arms, <laughter>, nor do we actually have a need for them. However, we understand the question and we are not necessarily affiliated with any such religious foundations. But there is an interesting correlation in that the original seeds for such an ancient culture, which stems directly from the ancient Rama Civilization and its predecessors which are even more ancient still, <pause>, actually stem from our own source self, the one where we are explaining to you where all three of had similar source. Do you recall?
The civilizations of the self sometimes are mirrored in the development of certain civilizations in physical reality. Do you understand that?
So that means that the physical development of a civilization has a source in the unofficial lines of consciousness, in other areas or levels of reality.
This was an ancient experiment by some ancient sources, here very much before the conceptualization of time as you understand it, that eventually showed up in a physical counterpart manner in flesh and blood terms as the remnants of those cultures or civilizations of the self appear. Do you follow?
MARK: I think so.
KRIS: How do you not think so?
MARK: So if a civilization has a single source or well…(stopped myself in mid sentence. I realized that the word singular was incorrect).
KRIS: Usually there are not a singular but group efforts. When these source selves come together one of the natural bi-products is an off shoots of all source-civilizations of selfhood, experiments purely into consciousness, even into the creation of worlds and realities and of course if worlds and realities are created, even down to its physical manifestation as you understand it, down this line then of course sufficient energy exists to populate, give life to the physical entities themselves.
And this happens without effort. It is the natural bi-product just like for your selves as a civilization the natural bi-product of being human is the creation of civilizations one on top of the other.
That is what you build, civilizations. You are architects of civilizations but where do you get this potential? Where does this come from? It comes from the source itself. It creates civilizations of selves, which end up being the individuals that you are and you yourselves create civilizations. You can not help it. Your instinctive nature, like the bees instinctive nature is to create honey and bees wax or the beaver to chew logs and create dams.
MARK: Yes. So this ancient Rama culture and more ancient cultures, what are their relationships to Krishna? Would that be the era in which they created that particular character?
KRIS: Indeed not. The individual that eventually became a god simply was a ruler of that, or ruler of one of the ancient cities in that civilization. There is so much more that can be gone into here but it is extremely complex because it is so ancient and people have forgotten how gods and goddesses are made, how they are constructed, they are architected if such a word can be invented, or architectured.
Just like you have engineers who can bring bridges and buildings together there are engineers of deities. So with that we will leave your pondering minds to ponder some more and play with the exercise that we have given you and do enjoy your week.
LIDA and MARK: Thank you.
8:51 PM Session Ends (Supposedly)
Lida comments on ‘Why is Kris drawn to us?’, ‘What are his interests in us?’.
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8:52 Quick Return
KRIS: Now what would make you think that this is our only interest? It is one of our many attractions.
LIDA: But it is one of them.
KRIS: Indeed but we have many others, some that we do not discuss. This is one that gives us a great deal of pleasure to be able to nudge you into remembering more of whom and what you are, to see and to understand what you go through when the realizations come upon you, when you discover that much more about yourselves, that we may have somehow or other been instrumental in the discoveries that YOU make. Therefore we act as a catalyst urging you on to remember those talents and abilities that are within you and that ARE you.
In a way this is not to be taken literally but in a manner of speaking we are like your own archeologists and paleontologists uncovering the past. Also like your historians discovering the past. Do you understand?
LIDA: Yes, past and future.
KRIS: Indeed.
MARK: I am reminded of Star Trek: Enterprise where crewman Daniels and people from the far future actually come back to experience the past by being casual observers.
KRIS: Now we are more than casual observers but it is none the less also one of the things that we do. With that we leave you to uncover your own existence for it is there before your very eyes and do have a pleasant evening.
8:55 PM Session Ends
MARK: And I also want to make a notation on the tape that Kris responded to Lida’s and my conversation in here despite the fact that Serge was out of the room giving the dog water and not listening to what we said and yet Kris was able to pick up that conversation.
