Roll Call: In Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Robert (Jordan) and Matthew

(Session begins at 2:30 PM.)

KRIS: Indeed we trust that you are comfortable and we thank you for your consideration.

MARK: Thank you.

KRIS: It is our perception that you have been engaging in a most fascinating discussion about human personality types. Correct?

MARK: Correct.

KRIS: Indeed. Joseph’s knowledge of the enneagram is limited to an approximate correct spelling of the word [laughter] and little more than that. However, yes your enneagram studies will continue to prove useful because it does provide you with the type of lenses that then enable you to see through the filters of the individual. We would suggest however that though you have nine specific categories, the entire subject matter can be expanded to twelve categories or type constructions. The other three are not as visible or prominent but if you do a careful analysis of each of the nine descriptions in the enneagram you may notice that those individuals that you would catalogue as into any of the categories also can contain within their structure, elements that do not quite fit into any of the categories, but that would require some diligent sleuthing. Do you follow?

MATTHEW: Uh huh.

KRIS: Because there are still other characteristics of the personality structure that have yet to be brought out and that can be a challenge for you to literally become a personality type archeologist, of sorts. To give yourselves a more completed picture of the pendulum effects within the personality structure; and how an individual literally converts their own unconscious mind mapping processes from one edge to another giving themselves so many other leeways that even they are not aware of. Does this make sense to you gentlemen?

MATTHEW: Um hum.

KRIS: What about yourself, Jordan ?

ROBERT: I’m busy visualizing the diagram of what the gaps are and how they may apply to the other three potential types.

MATTHEW: What are the characteristics that may not have been uncovered? When you said dig deeper for some of the other characteristics, what kind of characteristics?

KRIS: Firstly, look at all of the present characteristics described in the nine categories, and examining individuals per se, pick out those of their characteristics that do not match into any of the nine categories. You will find that they give you a little bit more of the picture.

MATTHEW: So I look at categories from a particular type and then compare them to the other nine, to the other personalities?

KRIS: Indeed. And they will not match any of the other nine.

MATTHEW: Okay.

KRIS: As if they have something that is not on the list, per se. And it will be subtle.

MATTHEW: I see.

MARK: So what do you classify yourself as?

MATTHEW: A Three.

MARK: So, if you’re a Three what characteristics do you have that don’t fit a Three or the rest of the nine?

MATTHEW: That don’t fit me…

MARK: Or that are yours…

MATTHEW: That are my characteristics but that don’t fit the characteristics of the Three or the other nine. Is that what you mean?

KRIS: Indeed.

MATTHEW: Oh, okay.

KRIS: This requires far more introspection.

MATTHEW: Sleuthing.

ROBERT: Yeah, that’s a great question.

KRIS: Mainly the human individual usually operates within the boundaries of, as you’ve described, one extreme of pain and one of pleasure. We refer to that as the extremes of what they oppose and what they allow. However, in order to recognize what you oppose and allow you have to be operating from yet another perspective which lets you recognize what you will allow yourself to oppose. You cannot do it otherwise. So there is still an inherent recognition within a larger, more global perspective. Do you understand?

MARK: Yeah… what you will allow yourself to oppose.

KRIS: Indeed. The majority of individuals may have an understanding of where they oppose in their lives, however, they may certainly not understand they have allowed the opposing itself for their own values and the fulfillment of those values are interlaced very tightly between the extremes of those fields that comprise the opposing and the allowing. So they are caught mainly from the perspective of one plane. We were before giving an analogy of being on the tarmac at the airport observing the planes, the buildings, the other vehicles and all of the activities of that particular plane of perception. But once you are on the plane itself and it begins to rise in altitude, the perspective must change unless one becomes totally blind.

MARK: Even that’s a different perspective.

KRIS: Correct. Thus once the plane begins to rise in altitude you may see more than the simple runway you were on. You may begin to see all of the runways and buildings. Higher in altitude you can see the outline area, even the city in the distance. Keep rising in altitude you begin to see other cities which put yours in context. Keep rising in altitude you may see the entire shoreline or perhaps even the entire country and you keep rising and you see many other countries. Do you understand?

MATTHEW: Um hum.

KRIS: In the same vein, then once an individual begins to understand why they have even allowed that which they oppose in their lives, meaning once they get to the core values, even the core values themselves can be shifted but yet so much more can also be done beyond the core values and this is where you drew our attention when you spoke about the principles of the enneagram in conjunction with soul purpose. Do you remember?

MATTHEW: Um hum.

KRIS: Firstly the soul, as you so quaintly put it, is not a static product, but one that is filled with fluctuating fields of values. The individual usually concentrates upon only a few of those values within one expression, meaning one perceived lifetime. And from our perspective the values are not only the by-product of one’s infancy and family unit indoctrinations, though this becomes part of the outcome later in life. Do you follow?

MATTHEW: Uh huh.

KRIS: Apart from that you have another set of values directly related to what you call the soul or the self which is more than the sum of all of its parts - that eternal principle that is beyond time and space. And these values also influence how the individual will then select a particular lifetime or expression that factors in those other values acquired during infancy, childhood and the family unit proposals; that there has to be a unification of sorts so that the deeper values find expression within the values that will be acquired during one’s growth as a human being. So that, in some ways, the human picture is multidimensional as opposed to uni-dimensional. Does this make sense to you?

MATTHEW: Um hum.

KRIS: Do you follow?

MATTHEW: Yes.

ROBERT: So it’s both.

KRIS: And then some.

MATTHEW: And then some.

KRIS: Because this is still the interaction that occurs within one specific frame – human life. And, even more specifically, during one expression of that personality’s unfolding potential. What other values are still contained within the very fabric and fiber, that can still be reached through the subconscious, that are not being allowed – they are opposed expression within the one lifetime counted by the values acquired during growth, childhood, growing up, the family unit, etcetera. So the human personality literally creates one of the most brilliant compositions of values of one kind or another and the tensions between all of these points of values is the end result – the physical reality - through which some of these are then manifested. So the human species, the human individual, is truly a brilliant creator of events and circumstances and conditions, all based on cascading effect of values from the infinite to the finite, and from that perspective even that which you would term the finite, still connects to points of infinity in terms of potentials. However, with all of this potential at its fingertips, the human individual may still only function within a certain percentage because of what you consider the consensus or official line of consciousness which is consensually agreed to in terms of what your species will accomplish in its manifestations, in its genius, within a certain frame of time which can even extend into thousands of years; and what kind of experimentations are going to be undertaken whether it is defined by what one can do and cannot do based on assumptions. Does this make sense to you?

MATTHEW: Um hum.

ROBERT: So are you suggesting that the missing enneagram quarter is actually a map of inherent characteristics that allow the soul type to progress to greater unity?

KRIS: Yes, and that is where the connection with soul can truly be clarified. That would give you then the - how do we say – the mystical, esoteric dimension of the enneagram.

MATTHEW: So the three quarters that are well documented are essentially a physical map and the missing quarter is the component to that in the spiritual and the existential.

KRIS: That will give you a much more rounded out perspective on the qualities and the potentials of your race.

ROBERT: Okay.

MATTHEW: So the characteristic that is in me that’s not in anyone else or any of the other Three’s would be one of those, one of the more spiritual, esoteric qualities of the other, of those other three…

KRIS: Indeed, because these are also values and at this point in time you may simply consider them hidden values. But they can be perceived, very simply requires a little bit of endeavor on your part. You can then break new ground in this category and with this area of study of the human personality.

ROBERT: So Kris, these, these qualities – would they be attributed to what we would call the Watcher dimension of the human mind? The part that observes itself observing?

KRIS: The Watcher aspect is a gateway. It is not the finished product yet. Now it can be said that there is always a Watcher to the Watcher to the Watcher. Do you follow?

ROBERT: Um hum.

KRIS: Beyond that is the dimension of Self that is no longer concerned with watching but is pure action and that is where the intimate, infinite core values of the Self reside and these are all based on actions. The very act of being - above and beyond any description your own philosophies and metaphysical studies can provide you with - the very act of being is pure action, and it creates an amazing, incredibly creative, side effect, almost in the terms of an abreaction, a release. Do you follow?

ROBERT: Not entirely. Go on a little along the abreaction side again – a spontaneous manifestation of potential?

KRIS: Indeed.

ROBERT: Okay.

KRIS: That, to utilize the term abreaction, is the physical universe you call reality. And it is only one of the many from the perspective of that eternal property which is Self. The release is physical reality as far as you are concerned.

ROBERT: Okay so if we use the enneagram for personal development, understanding where we’re going, what the benefits and the challenges are, I understand how that helps us transcend and become more complete. If we add the added spiritual dimension I understand how that potentially could take it to the next level. What happens after that once the enneagram has been completely unfolded within a soul? What’s the next step?

KRIS: Then you have awareness and remembrance of Essence, meaning that the individual gets a fairly clear path to remembering and acknowledging those other dimensions of him or herself that he or she has kept hidden. Whether you recall this as past life memories, other focuses, intuition, telepathy and so many other qualities, developing an awareness of Self well beyond simply recognizing habits and patterns localized to the personality structure, that aspect of your Being that interacts in the physical world on a day-to-day basis. Does that make sense to you?

ROBERT: I think so. I think what I took from that is instead of looking at my patterns to discover who I’m pretending to be, I transcend that and recognize who I actually am.

KRIS: Indeed, and the two are very, very different.

ROBERT: So any assistance on how to make that process easier or faster or more available?

KRIS: Indeed. We have made reference to it before as tapping into the second mind. Which is part of what you will experience during the weekend of the 9th and 10th of June.

ROBERT: I’m so excited about that.

KRIS: It has also been referred to as the Higher Intellect.

ROBERT: Is that different than the Higher Self in the Hawaiian Huna context?

KRIS: We would have to say yes. Simply by adding more dimensions to the perceived Higher Self than is regularly attributed to it.

ROBERT: Makes sense.

KRIS: Fleshing it out, if you will. So, in so many words then, on that weekend be ready to have your brain re-scrambled and then tuned to a different frequency.

ROBERT: Excellent. Is there anything we can be doing right now or from now until that seminar to be fully ready for it, to get the maximum benefit?

KRIS: Indeed not. We plan, since many of the individuals attending have no idea of what is going to be hitting them between the eyes, we tend to be gentle and at the same time firmly leading them to discoveries about themselves that they did not know could be discovered. And it will involve a kind of neurological rewiring in a manner that is highly beneficial. The outcome of which may even feel to the participant as if somehow or other they have acquired a brain transplant without any need for surgery or surgical procedures. Does this make some sense to you?

ROBERT: Some and if we were to give you tantamount permission to start immediately.

MATTHEW: I can’t wait. I’m excited. I’m so excited. I’m ready for the next level.

ROBERT: Yeah, I take the question back. I give you my permission to start immediately. You don’t need to be gentle either. Let’s go.

MARK: You need to give yourself permission.

ROBERT: I’m doing it right now.

KRIS: Where do you presently feel a shift in your brain?

ROBERT: Right this second?

KRIS: Indeed.

ROBERT: A little bit in the right front, ah, right pre frontal cortex and a small amount at the back in what I would say…

KRIS: Indeed, as if suddenly there is a straight line connecting what is called the third eye to the very back of the brain. Is this approximately correct?

ROBERT: I can feel something there for sure.

KRIS: Indeed. [slowly] Imagine if you will, this line in front of you which is to infinity, and the line from the back of the brain also reaches to infinity, in such a way that inevitably - regardless of your concept of infinity - the two points eventually meet. And because of this meeting you may recognize a feeling as if all knowledge, everything that is, was, and ever will be flows through your awareness in this moment even if you do not understand, it still flows through. And even though it may appear to be beyond the conscious mind’s ability to fully grasp, your subconscious mind opens up to it, embraces it, because it is the root of its existence. And as a result, new thinking patterns are being established, new pathways are being created, generating a different sense of being; recalibrating portions of the brain normally not recognized or utilized, and slowly and surely the process continues even though you may let go of the images and any related sensations and simply return to your regular consciousness. And any time you fix your attention on this process you can feel it work even though you do not have to pay any particular attention. We trust you were not too spaced out.

MATTHEW: Not too much. I enjoyed myself.

KRIS: Indeed. Do you have any other inquiries, observations, comments, perspectives, purports?

MATTHEW: I had my ah, I had a brain map done neuro, my father-in-law does a lot of neurotherapy, so if I had a brain map done now – today - and then I had one done after the session on the 9th and the 10th would it look different?

KRIS: There might be areas of the brain that will normally, say, be quiet that now suddenly are in party mode, so to speak. But the effects occur much more so at the layers of consciousness. But the activities within consciousness will influence the physical neurological processes. Does this assist you?

MATTHEW: Um hum. Yeah.

KRIS: And do you have any questions?

ROBERT: No. I’m excited.

KRIS: Indeed then we return Joseph to you and may all of your enneagrams be fulfilling.

MATTHEW: Thank you.

ROBERT: Thank you.

MARK: Thank you. 3:03.

(Session ends.)