Roll Call: Serge, Mark, Ellen, Cathy, Brian, Jen, Miriam, Lisa, Tom, and Mark


(Session begins at 7:45 PM)

[This night marked the last day of Serge's hypnotherapy classes. He aced his final test and earned three certificates. Everyone offered congratulations both for his graduation and also a wonderful radio interview he and Kris participated in last week. We all sang a congratulations song to him to the tune of "Happy Birthday."]

KRIS: Now we trust that you are all comfortable and we thank you for your consideration and an additional heartfelt thank you to all of those who, in one way or another, provided assistance to enable Joseph to obtain his certification.

This evening we would like to speak on the subject of "Who are you?" And as you can easily imagine, whether your own minds or someone else's will immediately confirm, "Well, yes, I am so-and-so, and I have done this and that, and I have experienced this, that, and the other thing." Others, who may have a different bent, may say, "I am Essence, I am this, I am that thing." Yet, we still ask, "But indeed, DO you know who you are? Who are you?"

And immediately your minds rush like wildfire to a great variety of events and incidences, circumstances, and all the various conditions of your life as a type of identifier that obviously, these things above mentioned are all proof that you are who you are. Or you might even take your wallet out, or your purse, and show your driver's license or any other socially-enabling identification. Or you might point to the looking glass and say, "THIS is me. This is who and what I am." And yet, we would still concur to our previous question, "Who are you?"

Because, from our perspective and even from your forgotten perspective, which would be not that different from ours, you are very different from all of the identifiers, you are very different from all of the tags, all of the labels, all of the flags, all of the various enumerators that you have utilized to form an identity, to form a presentation of who and what you are. And as you continue on your life journey, the true notion of who you are may indeed become so buried, so deeply buried, that you can only identify with your reactions to conditions, events, circumstances, etc.

And you further muddle self-identification with things like "This one caused me this, that one caused me to do this, the government causes me to act this way," and so on and so forth. And as the condition evolves, it becomes more and more difficult to identify with yourself and easier and easier to leave that self behind and identify instead with strings of apparent cause and effect, seeing and believing yourselves to be the result of those events, conditions and circumstances that you claim have molded, shaped and created the person that you are.

And yet, we claim that that individual may indeed be false in the sense that this latter individual is manufactured for the purposes of hiding and protecting the one that is within or inside that shell that may at times get thicker and thicker to the point where not only that which is apparently outside can no longer reach that which is within: YOU and that which is within - meaning you - can no longer relate to who you are, but instead accept those temporal, manufactured identifications or masks.

And gradually that individual may acquire a sense of losing oneself, unable to feel their connection with life, no longer able to feel their own power and authority, thus experience powerlessness, perhaps even give up their innate ability to revel in their capacity to choose and advocate that capacity into what is referred to as depression as an alternative means of choice by default, thus living vicariously through what we often call the soap opera of life, just as in your own world there are people who indeed live vicariously through the soap operas weekday afternoons.

We only bring this up because it eventually becomes important to start asking that question to oneself. "Who am I? What have I become? Where is and who is my SELF? And is my SELF still available? Reachable? And can I ever again connect with that SELF that I am?" And in these cases, "SELF" would be in capital letters. SELF, in that respect, is something very different from all of the attachments that have become part of its temporal, temporary, artificial identifications. And life can then appear truly like a maze, often finding the dead-ends, feeling that sense of personal frustration.

But there are indeed many different ways to recover and re-discover who you are, and we must point out that who you are is not necessarily a finished product, like when you buy a box of teabags on the shelf. Self is an ever-changing, ever-expanding, growing process. Unlike all of the attachments and the psychological and emotional baubles that you have glued to your ideas about Self, to the point where you may no longer recognize who and what you are. And so very many people carry huge burdens with them their whole lives long, they can only identify then, with their burdens, their challenges and have forgotten that the burdens and the challenges are not who and what they are, they are something very different.

In a few moments, we will encourage you all to join us on a lovely inner journey to get a better sense of who that Self that you are, is. Before we venture on this journey, perhaps some of you may have questions about this.

MARK: Phone lines are open. Any questions?

BRIAN: Kris, this is Brian in Delaware. I think you're actually talking to me, because I have felt a sense of overwhelm with all of the creations that I've created and in a way forgot who I am, if you could talk about that....because actually we create it ourselves.

KRIS: That is correct. Once the individual begins to over-identify with his or her creations over and above who and what he or she is, then a certain kind of identity crisis and transference takes place. Imagine if your grandmother baked you a tray of cookies or muffins. You start eating them and your grandmother begins to cry in pain, claiming that you bit her. You would find that quite disconcerting would you, to realize that your grandmother has over-identified with her baked goods!

(Group laughter)

You know that your grandmother is not a cookie or a muffin. She is the one that makes the baked goods, she is not baked goods, correct? Does that make sense?

(Yes)

BRIAN: Poor Nana!

KRIS: Now of course, the cookies are chocolate chip and the muffins are bran, as any good grandmother knows! But we believe you get the gist.

BRIAN: Actually I've even EFT'd my creations and find resistances to EFT-ing them.

KRIS: Most likely because you are not settling in on the proper set-up.

BRIAN: Right.

KRIS: It is not about your creations, it is about you. You, for instance, do not say in EFT set-up something like, "Even though I have a Brian, I am a pain in the neck!" (The rest of Kris' words are lost in the group's laughter) Correct?

BRIAN: (Laughing)

KRIS: It has to be about you first and foremost. Does that make sense?

BRIAN: Oh, absolutely, Kris. Absolutely.

KRIS: Are there other inquiries?

TOM: I have a question. Could you comment on different divisions, or maybe classify the different aspects of self into groups?

KRIS: We are not necessarily addressing aspects of Self, but merely those situations that the individual tags onto themselves. "I had a painful childhood, therefore it has made me who I am." "I had a terrible marriage and divorce, therefore it has made me who I am." "My government has screwed me, therefore I am who I am," and so on and so forth. Does that clarify the issue?

TOM: Yes, it does.

KRIS: Indeed then. Then perhaps Philip can put the telephone back on mute and we can travel with you on this journey. Now then, we ask that you to sit very comfortably, preferably not sitting on the floor, but if that is all that is available, then make yourselves as comfortable as possible. (Kris pauses to give people time to situate themselves.)

In a few moments you will be able to close your eyes. For now they should be open, and as you sit there very comfortably, focus your gaze a few feet in front of you as if you are looking at a lovely scene and in a few moments you will be able to close your eyes, but for now, gaze at this lovely scene in a dreamy way.

And as you continue to listen to the sound of our voice you also concentrate on your breathing, allowing each and every exhalation to bring you deep relaxation. And in a few moments when you will close your eyes, you will recognize how soothing and relaxing you are in such a beautiful state. As you continue to allow yourself to relax deeply and comfortably with each exhalation, we will count to ten and on the count of ten, you will go into a deep, relaxed state, and perhaps even before we reach ten, perhaps at three, five, or seven, you will choose to close your eyes and go into a deep state of relaxation.

One, deeply relaxed...two...three...deeper still...four....five....six....deep relaxation.... seven... eight... very deep now...nine...ten...close your eyes and go deeper still into relaxation and allow all of the muscles that hold any tension to release that tension in whatever way possible that works for you. The muscles of your scalp, face, the back of the neck, the sides or the front and only those small muscle groups that allow you to keep your head straight can stay as they are.

The muscles of the back, those small muscle groups that enable your back to stay straight, they keep their position, but all other muscles can be relaxed. The chest, the abdomen, the shoulders and the forearms, even the muscles in your fingers, the buttocks, the thighs, the pelvis, the muscles under the thighs, the calves, the front of the legs, the muscles of your ankles, the heels, the arches of your foot, the top of your foot, right down to the tip of your toes.

And as each muscle group in the body relaxes, your own relaxation goes deeper still. Now imagine yourselves at the top of the stairs and we will count ten steps. And when you reach the bottom of the steps, you will be in a very safe place, a safe, soothing, relaxing place. Now with your hand on the rail, begin going down...One, deeper still....two...three...very deep now...four...five...six, deep and safe...seven....eight....deeper now....nine and ten. Deep relaxation, feeling very safe.

Imagine that you are now going on a journey. And on this journey, since you need to travel some distance, you have a large backpack and you begin your trek, your journey, and as you travel downhill, uphill, countryside and so on, you notice that after awhile your backpack is getting heavier and heavier. Perhaps you understand why or perhaps not. But you know your backpack is very important because you have packed it full of things and supplies for your journey. And after a little while longer, your backpack seems heavier still. Perhaps you are sweating with the effort and the strain of carrying this backpack that by now has gotten so heavy that you need to stop, take it off your shoulders and look into it to find out why it is so heavy.

You open it, look inside....only you know what you find there, but perhaps amongst the many things that you have put there, there might be things that are no longer necessary for you to carry. Perhaps you might even decide to take a few of those things out and leave them by the side of the road to lighten the backpack. After you have taken a few things out, put it back on your shoulders and continue the journey, down the valleys, up the hills, countryside, etc.

After awhile longer, you may decide the backpack is still somewhat heavier than you would like and you realize that earlier on, you removed some of the heavy objects and it lightened the load and that perhaps you can do this again. So take it off your shoulders. Look inside and see what else you might leave behind.

(Pause) Satisfied that the few other things you have removed will lighten the burden, lighten the backpack, put it back on your shoulders, feel its weight, look at the road ahead of you, down the hills, up the hills, countryside....continue on your journey. Decide if after awhile, you need to take other things out. If so, stop, take it off your shoulders, remove other things, whatever you decide needs to go. Leave it by the side of the road [and] put the backpack back on your shoulders.

Notice how much lighter it is, how much easier it is to travel even downhill, especially uphill, that there might even be a bounce in your step as you go countryside.....Now consider the weight of your backpack. Are there any other items that you think need to be unloaded, so that you can continue your journey, and if so, do so. Take it off your shoulders, open it, look or rummage inside, see what needs to be put on the side of the road. Are you satisfied that you have removed enough, or do you need to remove more? And if so, do so.

And when you are satisfied, put it back on your shoulders, notice how much lighter it is.....with so much more energy and strength at your disposal now, you can easily see, imagine, and understand that your journey will be easier. And allow yourself to go merrily on your journey as you begin to take a deep breath in and on the count of five you will fully awaken to the present moment.

One, take a deep breath...become aware of your body in this time and space...your hands, fingers, feet and toes....two, enjoy the feeling that sinks deep into your being....and three, breathe again deeply, begin to awaken now...four, enjoy the feeling of lightness, of wellness in every which way....and five, return, open your eyes and awaken fully now.

And remember life is a journey and what you carry with you can make it as light or as heavy as you choose. And if you wish, every night before you fall asleep, remember this little story of your journey. And take a break.

(Break begins at 8:27)

[ELLEN'S NOTE: I was very emotionally affected by this meditation and the items I found myself removing from my backpack, and came out of it in tears. My group - bless 'em! - came to the fore. Cathy and I slipped out the back door so I could air out my emotions and my thoughts, while Brian and Jen held the phone line. Cathy and I sat down on the back step. She injected just the right touch of humor: "What happened, Kwaaj?" she asked, "Did they take your vimana away?"

Quite a testament to Serge's new credentials as a hypnotherapist that I, who consider myself not a very good hypnosis subject, even in person on a one-to-one basis, could have been so strongly affected over the telephone!]

(Silence)

MARK: Everybody awake?

BRIAN: Barely.

SERGE: (After a long pause) Everyone's so quiet.

BRIAN: Lots of stuff in the backpack! You know what? That was actually a form of EFT.

SERGE: How did you guys feel?

BRIAN: Like there was a lot of stuff built up over the years.

TOM: It was very relaxing.

MARK: That was hypnotherapy at work!

BRIAN: I didn't know Kris had his degree! (Group laughter) What, is he piggy-backing off Serge?

MARK: (Jokingly) He's gotten degrees from quadrants you've never heard of!

[ELLEN'S NOTE: Cathy and I returned at this point. "You all right, El?" Brian asked. I nodded, still a bit choked up, but muttered that I had removed symbols of my husband and children. Jen quietly said she took her parents out, and Cathy said that she'd kept removing bricks that she'd been carrying around from walls she had torn down years ago.]

SERGE: I get the gist that he created a story?

MARK: Yes. (Mark fills Serge in on the sequence of the meditative journey.)

SERGE: Does anybody feel lighter?

LISA: Yes. I got rid of my cigarettes!

SERGE: What did you guys take out of your backpacks?

BRIAN: A lot of ex-girlfriends.

SERGE: When we were in class, the class leader told us an interesting little story about two monks, an old one and a young one, traveled for a very long time and one day they came by the river and there was a young woman by the river who was in desperate need to cross, but the river was too deep for her. She asked the monks if either one could help her, so the older monk put her on his shoulders and they crossed the river and when they got to other side he dropped her off and they continued. And many hours later, the young monk comes up to the old monk and he says, "You know, we're not supposed to touch women." So the old monk says, "Well you see, I dropped her off miles ago, but I see you're still carrying her."

(Group laughter)

BRIAN: Point well taken!

TOM: Uh-huh.

JEN: Yeah, I also had a lot of people in my backpack. I didn't realize they were so heavy.

BRIAN: The whole paradox is that we create it. In our life's journey, we create all the events that happen to us and then we carry it in our backpack, not realizing we created them to begin with.

TOM: But they're so heavy.

BRIAN: I kept thinking back to childhood - how easy it was.

SERGE: Was it a good experience?

BRIAN: I had a great childhood. Even after the divorce of my parents, I was always outdoors, in Nature, exploring.

SERGE: Was it a good experience, what Kris did with you?

LISA: It was a very, very good experience.

BRIAN: Oh yeah. Yeah, Serge the hypno was great. Incredible! Very visual.

TOM: Yeah, it makes me feel that it doesn't matter what it is that you're carrying, just lighten it up and start from there, you'll feel better and just continue on.

LISA: It's one of those things that I think is going to carry on in the next few weeks for me.

MARK: Kris is coming back.

(Kris returns at 8:35 PM)

KRIS: Now we trust that your little inner journey was most pleasant and revealing and the revelation is a gift you give to yourself. And at any time feel free to utilize it in that deep relaxed state and allow the excesses to be left by the side of the road. You see, even though you do create the events and conditions and circumstances of your life, they are not you, nor is the backpack. The backpack you can consider the ego.

It identifies with those creations because it assesses them, but when there is insistence on your part that your creations are part of you - they are you, they are your identification - you are reluctant to part with them, thus the ego does what you ask it. It keeps them. Only you can unlock those secrets that you keep, and only you can release them by the side of the road. These things, these baubles, whether psychological or otherwise, are not you.

The you that you are in many respects may indeed create those conditions and circumstances, but it has nothing to do with them, because it is not them. You make that identification and you believe that it is part of your experience, but the experience of who you are is a completely different state. And by recognizing that you do this, you provide yourselves with a great key, the key that unlocks the baggage you stuff in your backpack.

Thus we do urge and encourage you to periodically take inventory of the contents of the backpack. Decide then what needs to go to lighten the journey. Otherwise, after awhile it will become so heavy you will not be able to go anywhere, stuck in the one place, wanting to go so many places, weighed down and unable to do so, and not understanding that you can either open the backpack and empty the contents, or even, in some ways, leave the backpack behind. Does that make any sense?

(Yes)

MARK: Yes. Big time!

KRIS: So avail yourself of this small key and examine the journey you are on, and what you wish to carry, and what may no longer be necessary for that journey. It is, after all, a matter of choice. During your relaxation you were not forced to remove anything from your backpack. You chose to take out certain items and then some more and in a simplistic fashion, it is as simple as that.

When you overly identify the things in your backpack, you lose further perspective of who and what you are, unwilling to part with the things, but the things are not who you are, nor what you are, and as soon as you can realize this and apply it, your own existence will be much easier to enjoy because you choose to do so. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Indeed, perhaps you can open the phone again. Now, does anyone have questions on that subject matter?

BRIAN: Yes, Kris, I noticed that in my private session you mentioned resistances and I noticed in going through the journey, by taking the stuff out of the backpack it actually took away a lot of the resistances that I felt. In other words, I was grinding to a halt under the weight of my own creations.

KRIS: Indeed. Now what would this teach you? What have you taught yourself this evening?

BRIAN: To relax and allow things to unfold and be aware of what it is I'm actually creating.

KRIS: And what else?

BRIAN: Appreciate myself more for being me.

KRIS: That is very good. And what else?

BRIAN: That I have a hell of a sense of humor and I love myself.

KRIS: And what else?

BRIAN: I am I.

KRIS: We would humbly add to that that all of you ARE WHO YOU ARE, and you may indeed create small and great things, wonderful or not so, but all in all, your creations are not you. You can practice a very gentle form of detachment in this way, whether it is your emotions, or events and circumstances, they are not you. They are merely being experienced by you, but not you and if you can let go of all the big pieces of coal and brick and stone in your bags, you can do even more. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

Are there other questions and inquiries, even from Montreal?

MARK: Any questions Miriam?

(Silent pause. It is believed that Miriam may have gotten disconnected.)

KRIS: Perhaps everyone has fallen asleep.

MARK: I found it interesting during the meditation, or whatever you want to call it, that when we were going down the stairs, each step I took I got younger, until when I got to the bottom of the stairs I was a little boy with the pajamas and a teddy bear.

BRIAN: (Chuckling) That's interesting, Mark. I saw myself as a kid growing up in Media, walking down the steps down to the livingroom as a child.

MARK: To the bigger self, the Self, Mark really is a child. I'm discovering this, THIS Self.

KRIS: The imagery may also represent that you began to put things in your backpack even at a very early age, an indicator that some of the burdens you or others have been carrying have been in your backpack collecting dust and mold for many years. Does that make sense?

MARK: Yes. I noticed when you started us on the journey and gave us the backpack - or told us OF the backpack, made us aware of it - I grew up very quickly. I jumped from a four-year-old into a teenager, into a man in my twenties very quickly.

KRIS: Any other comments or observations?

TOM: I have a comment. It seems like we were able to just choose and take out whatever rather quickly but that process is probably a little bit more involved, looking at the issues and acceptance and really being ready to release the issues....is that correct?

KRIS: We would rather suggest not to do so. Your own unconscious or inner Self knows very well what can be gotten rid of, but to do so in the process you mentioned, you overly involve your conscious mind, the conscious mind being so closely allied with the ego, would begin to think, "I cannot get rid of this, and I cannot get rid of that, and I cannot part with this, absolutely not!" and you would end up putting everything back, then finding out (Kris' words are lost in the laughter). Do you follow?

TOM: Yes, I would get around to it eventually.

LISA: I also noticed that since it was a backpack that it was something that we could easily take on and remove like it was not really connected to who I am.

KRIS: That is correct! Very correct! We had even suggested that you can even remove the entire backpack because that too is not who you are.

BRIAN: Can you throw it off a tall cliff?

KRIS: If you so like, but being ingenious individuals, you will find some way to get another backpack!

(Laughter)

You could even compare all of the things from the backpack that you took out as merely other stories that you have added to the script of your life that you can then remove because it is not your story. Do you understand?

(Yes)

JEN: I thought it was interesting. I thought I was just putting water and stuff like I would normally take on a hike with me, but then when I stopped to take some things out, I was taking out people! It was as though I wasn't aware that I had already put things in the backpack, I was already carrying things. I thought I had to just see what I needed, but I was mistaken about that.

KRIS: Again, your unconscious, or that lovely inner Self, knows whatever it is that you have buried in it. Even though you may have forgotten, the people are themselves other stories that you have put into the knapsack or backpack, and these eventually weigh you down because they are not who you are, but you carry other people, other stories, and they eventually become heavy as well. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

MARK: So technically speaking, we as focus personalities don't have to be aware, to know what we've taken out of the backpack...just to ALLOW.

KRIS: Indeed, otherwise, again you will begin, "I cannot take this out. Oh my, if I remove that, what will happen to me?" And so on and so on. And that is why these things are in there in the first place. Does that make sense to you?

(Yes)

Now this is not to say that the conscious mind and the ego have to be punished for doing what you tell them to do. They are doing their job, but it is YOUR job to ascertain that the backpack does not have to become filled to capacity and then some. It is not after all, a Mary Poppins bag!

(Group laughter)

Periodically, you do need to do some housecleaning and such small journeys are excellent to do this. Now please take a break.

(Break begins at 8:52 PM)

MARK: I found this to be particularly interesting that it comes at this point in time because Serge and I are actually moving things around in our apartment. We're switching two rooms, what used to be the office is now going to be the bedroom and vice versa and I'm realizing there's a lot of stuff that we've been hanging onto that's up here and in the basement that really needs to go, but stuff that we don't necessarily like to get rid of! (Laughing) But you know this physical stuff is an outward expression of that internal stuff, the stuff in the backpack that has been weighing us down, and it's cluttering and it's collecting dust.

I also noticed...I've been having a lot of back pain lately and at the beginning of the meditation it really eased up, but then he gave me the stupid backpack! (Laughing) But at least I know what's causing me the pain now, the damn backpack and the stuff in it!

BRIAN: Talk about symbolism.

MARK: Yeah, exactly. I'm carrying it all on my shoulders.

(Kris returns at 9:02 PM)

KRIS: Indeed. Now, we trust that everyone is back and comfortable and if you so like, we would enjoy taking you on another small inner journey. Sitting where you are, as comfortably as possible, allow yourselves to be relaxed. Look ahead of you, perhaps a foot or two or so, as if you are looking at that pleasant scene, but seeing it in a dreamy way, allowing your breath to begin relaxing you. And in a moment you know your eyes will close and you will enjoy it, going into that deep place where you are safe and ever so relaxed. Allow your breath to continue relaxing you and as before, allow your body to also be relaxed.

And we will count from one to ten, and perhaps at three, at five, seven, or ten, you will gladly close your eyes, being deeply relaxed. One ...two ...three ...four ....five ....six ....seven ....eight ....nine ....ten. Very good. Keep your eyes closed and allow yourself to relax even deeper still, allowing the sound of our voice to soothe you. And in that soothing state of deep relaxation, you let all the muscles of your body that can be relaxed to be so, from the top of your scalp to the bottom of your feet, all pertinent muscle groups, simply let go.

Let go now. Now we will count from one to ten, and imagine that with each count, a beautiful beam of warm light, warms your scalp and goes down the body until by the count of ten, you are fully enveloped in this wonderful warm light.

One...your scalp, your head...two, your face and neck...three, down it goes, down your body, down deep...four....five....your chest, abdomen, pelvic area....six...your thighs...seven...eight, your legs, your feet....nine....and ten.

Allow this beautiful warm light to envelop you with a loving, genteel caress and allow it to gently lift you from anything and everything that burdens you, that weighs you down. All of these things gladly, you let go of, feeling only your true Self. (Pause and then very softly, almost a whisper) Very nice...that deep feeling of being unfettered, unbound from all burdens, separate from anything that is not Self....anything that is merely an image, a translation of Self, but not Self itself.

Allow your beautiful, lovely Self Being to breathe deeply of this warm light and feel the gentle nurturing and loving energy that is who and what you are. Recognize and embed that feeling of being who you are and know that as a Being, you have many choices available and the best choices for yourself is what you will create.

The best choices for yourself are what you will experience. And the best decisions for yourself are what you will make. And in that deep Self that you are, this feeling of peace, contentment, and fulfillment will never be eradicated, forgotten or lost or misplaced, but will always be there for you and with you, whether in the day, or in the night, in your sleep, in your dreams, in your work, in your meditations, in your walks, everywhere and anywhere in your human journey it will be there for you.

And from deep within this loving, safe, feeling place give yourself thanks for experiencing this state of grace that is you. And in a moment we will count to five at which time you will awaken, remembering and knowing this feeling very deeply in your body, anywhere and everywhere you are.

One, breathe deeply, bringing back with you this beautiful, safe and loving feeling...two, wiggle your fingers, your toes and your nose and lips...three, breathe again deeply, knowing deep in your heart that this feeling infuses your being...four, you are ready to awaken fully in this present moment...five, open your eyes, be fully aware of yourself, in every which way, lovingly.

And remember that at any time, you merely have to remember this to experience it again. Now, how are you at this moment?

MARK: Very comfortable. Very relaxed. How do you guys feel?

TOM: Very peaceful.

LISA: Peaceful.

BRIAN: Yes. Serene.

MARK: It's so like that state of being in love. A very wonderful place.

KRIS: Now we will tell you a secret and we trust that by now you will have realized that in order to get in touch with this inner self, this elusive, higher Essence Self, is no further from you than your thoughts. How's that for a secret? It only took a few moments and you did experience it, did you not?

(Yes)

No big mystery, no millions of dollars to pay for the secrets, because it is yours to begin with. Does this make sense to you?

(Yes)

MARK: All too much.

KRIS: Now these two techniques we have shared this evening, we believe Joseph and Philip will make available on CD. The only thing we strongly recommend is never listen to them whilst driving or operating any machinery. Absolutely. Other than that, use it before falling asleep, or during meditation and relaxation at any time during the day. Any comments or observations?

(Pause)

If not then, we will leave you to your lovely inner selves for you to enjoy that relationship and we thank you for allowing us to play an ever so small part in discovering who and what you are, and may your dreams continue (words lost) to you.

ALL: Thank you, Kris.

Detailed Roll Call:

Toronto: Serge (Joseph) and Mark (Philip)
Delaware: Ellen (Kwaa'Ji), Brian (El-Don), Cathy (Segova) and Jen (Alma)
Montreal: Miriam
Hawaii: Tom (Desire)
Oregon: Lisa (Lauromar)
Arizona: Mark