Summary Roll Call: Serge, Mark, Myrna, John, Katherine, Michelle, Isabel, Margaret, Ellen, Brian, Ella, Lisa, Tom, Jon, and Marcos

7:49 PM

BRAHM: Now it is most pleasant to return to your lovely company and we are very thankful for the consideration you are giving us. [Leaning over and looking at Mark.] So this means, therefore, that Kris is on standby.

(Laughter)

For those of you who were present at the last discussion, would you be so kind as to offer a summary, if you can hear. (Mark un-mutes everyone) Perhaps it would be a good idea to ask our friends on the receiving end of the telephone if they hear well.

ELLEN: We are keyed in kind of close to the speakers. It is a little hard to hear on our end.

MARK: How about everybody else?

ELLA: It's a bit difficult, yes.

BRAHM: [Raising his voice.] Indeed, perhaps as the evening unfolds, everything will come out well. Now, who would be so bold as to summarize?

MARK: "Secrets of the Ancients, Part One," who wants to summarize that?

BRAHM: Perhaps we should ask the one transcriber?

(Everyone laughs)

BRIAN: You're on, Ellen!

ELLEN: (Cracking up) Oh, okay....I'm going backwards...of course I remember the discussion about the dreams of AARONII....before that Kris talked or Brahm, I should say, talked a lot about the ancient....(I draw a blank. I'm already working on two other transcripts and having a hard time separating them out in my head)....help me out, Brian!

ELLA: The meditation, remember, going in times back and forth and changing our perspective...

ELLEN: (Coming clearer now) Yes, and he led us through a meditation, which was almost a past life regression kind of a meditation, and some of us offered what we had experienced, and Brahm emphasized that we all showed biased or prejudiced views in what we had personally experienced because many of the ancients were far more advanced than what we normally believe, what the official line of consciousness speaks to and then he elaborated quite a bit on what the advancements were, thousands and hundreds of thousands and even millions of years ago....and that we have a lot of that knowledge that we can tap into, and there are ways of doing that.

BRIAN: Through the dream states.

ELLEN: Through the dream state, yes, which is one of the reasons why he gave us the Bridge of AARONII dream method.

JOHN: But also, the kicker for me was when he pointed out that for our purposes, WE are the Ancients and that they [their knowledge] are inside of us.

BRAHM: We believe that this is a very nicely rounded out summation of the material.

ELLEN: (Laughing) Woo Hoo! Gimme five! (Brian and I slap hands)

BRAHM: Now, do keep in mind of course that again, you view all of your reality from one singular perspective as if you are looking at the entire span of the Universe through one small telescope, only one small field of vision at a time and you often quickly forget what it is you were previously looking at because you are intensely focused on what you are looking at now. Does that make some sense?

(Yes)

Then perhaps with some of these discussions you will learn how to make the lens of your telescope or perception even wider so that you can capture more of what is capturing your attention.

Now we discussed last time that many of the cultures that you consider ancient had discovered, utilized many tools, resources, some of which were in many ways even more significantly advanced than your own and some would simply qualify as less advanced than your own and comparatively, your own culture or civilization as it stands now would obviously be compared as more advanced to even present day stone age groups that are still found on your planet.

So these may represent, these groups may indeed represent those areas of your awareness or psyche that demand more exploration especially in the manner in which their worldview compares to yours, as well as the potential for their worldviews to enrich yours as easily as yours can enrich theirs. And when we say "compare" we mean it strictly in the sense of comparative analysis and not for the purpose of judgmentalism.

Now, we have in past sessions with Kris delivered information about the Vedic civilization and many of their technological wonders, many of which were literally THOUSANDS of years ahead of your own developments. There were descriptions of Vimanas -- flying machines of various kinds and for various purposes. This ancient culture was spread around the world at one time and had established a culture of tremendous advancement, but not only in terms of technology, but in terms of mental resources and technologies as well as an understanding of self-awareness and self-knowledge.

Much of this is still embedded within your own consciousness and when we make references to self-knowledge, self-awareness, do understand that your own discoveries along those lines put you at the threshold of so much more, puts that knowledge almost within reach of your capacities; even when you believe, for instance, that it might appear nearly impossible to fully grasp the notions that you are contemplating, still that knowledge seeps into your awareness ever so slightly, enticing you to continue the exploration.

Much like someone panning for gold in the river bed or the stream, looking for those few small nuggets even, that give an indication that there is more to come and as he or she continues panning for the nuggets, following the trails, there is the eventual discovery of bigger deposits, perhaps a rich vein, or even the mother lode. But before you can find the rich vein or the mother lode, you must seek for traces of it. Does this make sense?

(Yes)

And the materials that you have been reading and exploring for a few decades now are leading you to discover larger and larger nuggets of that golden knowledge. And indeed you are able to surmise that since the nuggets are getting larger, meaning your understanding and your own personal transformations as evidence of that understanding and exploration are getting larger, then you can surmise that there is a rich vein or even mother lode nearby and for that you have to be applauded, for it is not an easy task by a long shot! We are well aware of this journey's demands upon you, thus we wish to assist further and perhaps describe other kinds of tools, other golden nuggets that will indicate to you that you are on the right track for yourself. Do you follow?

(Yes)

Now there was also brief mention of dreams, remembering dreams, working with dreams and utilizing the suggestion provided of requesting a dream of the Bridge of AARONII, correct?

(Yes)

All of the ancient cultures that you are aware of and so many others that you may never historically know of, all of which you would consider ancient cultures and civilizations, all have another trait in common: their utilization of, and even their reverence of, working with dreams in one way or another. Even of the ancient cultures that you are aware of whose remnants you can still find and read about, all of these that you may sometimes casually refer to as somewhat primitive, held dreams in high esteem indeed.

Does this mean because your own culture may consider dreams as a pathological safety valve of some kind, that those ancient cultures that worked with their dreams and did not understand the pathologies involved must have been primitive indeed to be so gullible as to think they could have gotten messages from the Gods and Goddesses in those dreams; that they would have set up temples to explore and research and make use of dreams that they would have set up philosophies about them? Indeed, it may seem that some of your historical ancestors in that sense might have been somewhat less cultured and civilized than yourselves. And we believe that in that vein, this may be a very accurate depiction, correct?

(Yes)

Our contention, as humble as it is, may indeed reflect the opposite. This does not mean that ancient cultures and civilizations had streets filled with Saints and enlightened individuals. On the contrary, they had their own challenges, as you do, but the one aspect of over a third of their existence is not considered a source of innate danger. This occurs in YOUR present culture and civilization and if you notice, your own civilization has its fair share of challenges, many of which can be considered pathological and even psychotic, correct?

(Oh, yes)

Now we are not speaking about choices and preferences at all in this observation. We are merely making an observation about the state of your culture and civilization, and we are making a direct link with this in line with your culture's discounting and denigration of dream work, dream research, dream exploration as it stands. Does this make sense to you?

(Oh, yes)

We also are aware that many of the therapies offered in your culture, psychotherapy, psychology, psychoanalysis, psychiatry and so on and so forth, to one small degree make use of dreams with advice for patients, but the perspective is that often the therapist hopes to find in his or her client’s or patient’s dreams, clues to that patient's psychosis as opposed to the clues that reveal the healing and nurturing that this individual is working through and sorting out. Does this also make sense?

(Yes, very much)

We are offering to you that the very basic assumption that your dreams are also as valid as any activity, subjective or objective on your part, is as valid as anything else that you undertake, any other action and that the dream atmosphere itself can be highly revelatory to your understanding of selfhood and may even assist you in discovering more than you have ever believed possible before. We believe it was last summer when Kris presented material on Idea-Atmospheres and Idea-Complexes. Is this correct?

MARK: Yes.

BRAHM: Indeed then. Understand that so far your perspective has been that the world, for example, is the result of a concept. However, your own personalities and that which gives birth to that personality is itself an idea atmosphere and you, all of you lovely selves, are representations of various idea complexes and you work out a large part of your understandings through dream states. This is where, in the dream state, this is where you can truly get to know yourselves in a far wider perspective than your own focus as Expression of Essence. And that original idea atmosphere, where you have your own Being, is directly linked to your dream states. Does this make sense?

(Yes)

The ancient Greeks fashioned some of their views upon ancient Egyptian methodologies. Both cultures had an understanding that the Gods and Goddesses communicated with mortals, with the individual, more often than not through the venues of the individual's dreams. Messages and communiqués were exchanged through dreams. These ancient folks also had an innate understanding of symbolism. Compared to your modern perspective, it seems that these ancient cultures were truly superstitious, imbued with religiality since they had so many Gods and Goddesses, Demi-Gods, and so on and so forth, as did the ancient Vedics.

That is only from your prejudiced perspective. It is quite possible that these ancient folks, these ancient people, had an understanding that particular Gods and Goddesses represented unique aspects of life and aspects of their own selves, something that your present culture seems to have misplaced and interpreted in a different fashion. However, these ancient cultures had specific temples dedicated to the communications from the deities to the individuals.

And those in specific need entered those temples for the purpose of communicating more directly with the deities, or if you prefer, their inner selves, in such a manner that those stewards of those temples, often referred to as priests or priestesses, would work with the individuals, utilizing auto-suggestion and other tools at their disposal to entice the individual to open their minds in such a manner that communications through dreams would become very clear, though it revealed to the individual that which they need to know, even to the healing of the physical body when there was need for it.

And such temples and resources were quite common throughout that part of the ancient world. Your present culture has no such equivalent, for many in your culture believe, if anything, dreams are something to pre-occupy the brain when you sleep, perhaps as a means to keep from going insane. But you could learn a tremendous amount of information by establishing or re-establishing similar centers in your present culture. Now we are not saying that you must now go and open up healing dream centers throughout the world!

(Laughter)

But you may begin by creating that kind of a sanctum within your own Source, within your own subjective awareness, giving yourselves certain suggestions that may indeed lead to deeper understandings of yourselves. Now the last suggestion concerning the Bridge of Aaronii is one such tool, but after break we would like to describe more tools that you may use quite practically and from there see that your own perspectives are indeed widening by and because of your own self-discoveries. Does this make sense?

(Yes)

Then indeed we leave you for a small break.

(Break starts at 8:25 PM.)

[MARK’S NOTES: Ella asked Mark to clarify exactly who Brahm is and the reason why he was speaking tonight instead of Kris. It was explained that Brahm is the Source of Kris and that Kris is acting as a bridge to make this interaction possible.

There was a bit of discussion on the difference between the terms Entity and Essence, as Brahm uses them.]

(Brahm returns at 8:39 PM.)

BRAHM: Now, as we described earlier, almost all of your perceived ancient cultures had a high reverence and regard for dreams in one capacity or another. Even in many of the religious texts still available today with your religions there are many, many descriptions of the utilization of dreams, the understanding and the communications that they can afford one, and it is important to find the means, however you put it into practice, to find the means to avail yourself of a bit of time and the desire to explore your dreams.

This bit of time and the intent directed towards working with your dreams will be amply rewarded with a better understanding of yourself, a widening of awareness and consciousness, and the utilization of the single most potent, practical, literally miraculous tool of consciousness -- resource of consciousness -- you could possibly ever require. We cannot impress upon you enough how this can be important in all aspects of life. It goes well beyond therapeutic in that sense, and directly into the realm of enrichment and fulfillment of your human journey.

And again, the rewards far outweigh the small inconvenience of working towards recalling your dreams, writing them down and using them as a tool to further understand who and what you are. Now, we specifically focused this evening upon dreams because it is one of the greatest secrets of the ancients in that sense of the word. And it can become your own greatest resource, apart from all of the intellectualizations and discussions and materials that you may read.

The transformative powers availed through dream states have no equal in your dimension, because when we say YOUR dimension, we may mean it in a general, consensus fashion, but we may also mean it to say your individual reality. As we were saying earlier, many of the ancient cultures in the Mediterranean basin and elsewhere, had cultivated the utilization of temples set up specifically to communicate with the deity or the deities. Not a specific deity, but sometimes any of them, since it was understood that any of the deities could communicate through the auspices of dreams with the mortal individual.

Now we are aware that it may not be practical for everyone to create a space in their home for such a purpose, but it is potentially possible for each and every one of you to at least create a mental sanctuary within which you can retreat, even if only energetically. And in this sanctum, you develop a closer relationship with those aspects of SELF that you consider as Source, a divine origin, and so on and so forth.

If you do and are able to create a space in your physical home to such a purpose, we simply suggest that you print out, or write out on paper that: "This space or corner is dedicated to the purpose of exploring the inner realities of my dreams. That all who enter here, in this space, can leave behind all of their concerns, all of their attention, fixated upon the events and circumstances of the world, and instead put on the cloak of peaceful sleep and enter the realm of dreams."

Now when you are able to print this out, if you have a small dedicated space or corner, put it, the print-out, in such a fashion that it is highly visible to you. If however, you do not have a corner or a space that you can dedicate to this, the print-out this as well, and if you can only sit and meditate, or lay down before you go to sleep then make this, what is written, a meditation.

Dwell upon it for a few moments, clear your mind, whether you are in a physical space, or you enter into a meditative state and clear your minds of anything and everything except your intent to enter the wonderful and auspicious temple of your dreams where you can indeed communicate with Source or higher Self, however you describe it and thus discover more about who and what you are. That can put you into an extremely relaxed state of mind or mood where you can then concentrate either on a specific goal or simply a desire to receive messages and communications through the atmosphere of your dreams. Do you follow so far?

(Yes)

And as you are deepening your relaxation, allow your mind to wander to any particular or all various types of older civilizations that made use of these dream temples and allow yourself to recognize that as much as is possible, you may be following in their footsteps. Try to capture the feeling that may come from knowing that you are following in these footsteps of ancient cultures, perhaps the very ancestors of your present civilization or otherwise.

Allow whatever imagery may come to your mind at that time to become clear, as tangible as possible, and allow it to become then, the vehicle through which you can fall asleep, knowing that you have near you the means to record, either paper and pen or pencil, an audio recorder of some kind, whatever it is, so that as you may have pre-determined beforehand, you will awaken as you have suggested to yourself and record or write down those dreams that you remember with date and day.

And do understand that at this point in time there is no need to try and understand all the symbols and meanings in every small detail of your dreams, but that you write them down. You record them, if for nothing else then, to explore what kind of and how many dreams you are able to record, to remember. Now what is the time?

MARK: 8:58.

BRAHM: Indeed. If per chance, when you connect mentally with the idea of these old dream temples in ancient cultures or elsewhere, your own subjective states present imagery to you right at that moment, consider this a preliminary to dream states themselves. Record that as well.

Now we suggest a small break. [Pause.] Is this allowed?

MARK: This is allowed! [Laughter.]

(9:00 PM. Break starts.)

[Break was a mere three minutes long. There was no discussion so Brahm soon returned.]

(9:03 PM)

BRAHM: Now for some of you who may be wondering, you do not have to limit your dreaming activity only to when you sleep at night. When it is practical and possible for you, you can indeed experience dreams with little more than a fifteen to twenty minute nap, which can be part of a larger meditative process if you so desire. And you can always give yourself the suggestion that, whether it is a short nap or a long sleep, you will be able to remember those lovely dreams, record them, write them out, and benefit from their innate wisdom, because the innate wisdom is from your Being and we all know that nothing can be wiser than you! Slightly tongue in cheek.

(Group laughs)

MARK: Well, I like to think so!

BRAHM: In more ways than one, you ARE wiser than you give yourselves credit for. Now, the reason why we suggested that as you enter a meditative mood in this dream temple of yours, whether physical or mental, and that you seek to connect with the energy or the mood, or the tone, or the feeling of those ancient temples around even the world at one time, that were dedicated to dreams and acquire a certain feel for that tone, is that for all intents and purposes, those temples have never gone. They have never disappeared, even though their stone and marble representations might even have been transformed into something else, or removed. The energy of those temples is still very prevalent, but for the most part have not been activated for thousands of years. Do you understand?

(Yes)

Thus, by aligning yourselves in that gentle manner with that energy, or those energies, you draw them to you. You make this a focus of your concentration. The ancient wisdom that is still encapsulated within those psychological constructions is still available because THOSE atmospheres are part of the atmosphere of your present world still, but are not focused upon. It is said that you get what you concentrate upon, correct?

(Yes)

Then, if you concentrate upon this, what do you think you will get?

[ELLEN’S NOTES: Partially inaudible response from someone in Toronto who, I believe, mentions "dream nuggets".]

BRAHM: Indeed, quite possibly very big ones. Indeed you will get more of what you concentrate upon. Thus, if you lean towards connecting with self through the dream temple that you create, and that you work with, remember your dreams, and you do some concentration upon this, you are bound to get more of what you concentrate upon. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

And the more you make room in your mind by suspending any disbelief towards this, and make room in your own mind, in your thought processes, in your beliefs, for the possibility that this type of dream temple that you create will bring you benefits, what do you think you will get?

ELLEN: Benefits!

BRAHM: Correct. Presently in your world you have an abundance of disregard for dreams because that is what has been concentrated upon, that they are worthless, thus what do you get? More of the same. Does this make sense?

(Yes)

Thus swinging the pendulum in the other direction should change your tracks. And be prepared to be enchanted! Thus, if you wish to specify a goal for your dream journey, then we offer a small suggestion that as you fall asleep, you suggest to yourself that you will be guided on your journey by the Enchantress of Dreams, the Goddess of Dreams.

ELLEN: Does she have a name?

BRAHM: There is an ancient culture and here we will specify, not ancient for reason of its having passed from the world, but because it has been established for thousands of years. It does not exist on your planet, but in another star system altogether where there are four suns and many more planets than you can shake a telescope at!

(Laughter)

But this culture is spread throughout 120 planets that gravitate around four suns. So this is an extremely large system because the four suns cannot be in close proximity to each other. Do you understand?

(Yes)

This system is extremely large, containing 120 planets, some with no satellites, some with a single satellite and some with multiple satellites, but the seventh planet of that system has three moons, each of them habitable, actually already populated and many other planets in that system have one unique culture and civilization that has remained unchanged for many thousands of years.

But we should specify also you have a specific view of change, and anything unchanged to you must be stale, must not show any progression, but that is not necessarily the case. This particular planet and the entire system have a culture that does progress in its own way, but at basis has been unchanged for many thousands of years. They have not thrown out their ancestors nor put them out to pasture. You will not find in that system a retirement home for old civilizations.

(Laughter)

And even new expressions of this culture live side by side with older expressions. This system, though they have many and we hesitate to use the words Gods and Goddesses, because again you have prejudiced perceptions towards such words, but you would INTERPRET their icons in that light; so they have a Goddess of dreams. She is named EIDURRU. You could spell that E-I-D-U-R-R-U. EIDURRU. (Pronounced EE-DU'-RUU)

She is neither pretty like Aphrodite, nor is she homely like Inanna. She may represent some of the qualities of both, but the main purpose of this archetype is to share in the individual's own journey and she represents an aspect, the higher dream aspects of that civilization. Does this make sense to you?

(Yes)

ELLEN: Thank you for that.

BRAHM: Now, Gods and Goddesses, archetypes are not bigoted like in your perceptions where the deities from one religion cannot be admired by the devotees of another religion. Do you understand?

(Yes)

This can also be utilized by you. You can remember our description. Remember the feeling-tone that was associated with it when you listened. Remember the imagery that flowed through your mind at that moment when we described this vast system with four suns, 120 planets, each having from zero to multiple satellites. The seventh planet of this system is the core of the system in terms of cultivation and civilization and the recognition of EIDURRU throughout that entire system is tapped into and they make use of this knowledge. They cannot, in many ways, entertain the consideration that even other world civilizations and people elsewhere do not have this connection. Do you understand the profundity of such a statement?

(Oh yes)

We entreat you to think along similar terms and cultivate that relationship with your own inner EIDURRU. EIDURRU may appear to you as the name, but it is also a state. You could call it a psychological area. Do you understand?

(Yes)

So give yourselves the loving suggestion to go to your own EIDURRU like a country if you wish, that tonight you will travel to EIDURRU. You do not have to pay any fare, or even leave your room! And you will indeed have a pleasant journey. Do you have questions?

TOM: Yes, I have one. This is Tom from Hawaii. I was wondering if you could give us a name of the planetary system with the four suns, just for reference.

BRAHM: (Very long pause) The inhabitants, which are indeed varied, consider themselves as IXUTL. You may spell this as I-X-U-T-L (Pronounced EU -TOOL). This location is not even in a galaxy near you. That is only a geographical inconvenience. Psychologically they are not that far from you. That is the best we can do at this point of time.

MYRNA: I have spent many years in various other modalities, all of which have had teachings around dream interpretation and I think at this stage in my life, I've probably lost a lot of my dreams because frankly I don't want to get into my head any more and try to understand my dreams, because I'm not sure I'm getting at it anyway, so I wonder, in allowing the dreams to come through how I harvest the wisdom?

BRAHM: You might benefit much more by allowing the wisdom to show you what it can teach you.

MARK: [To Myrna] Do you remember what you said last week about Shara-Leene?

MYRNA: No.

MARK: That you had trouble connecting?

MYRNA: Right.

MARK: Maybe by ALLOWING those dreams to come forward you can connect with Shara-Leene.

MYRNA: Yep, sure. I have to give myself permission to not try and figure them out.

BRAHM: Now do keep in mind that when we suggested utilizing dream states as we described it this evening, the intention is not specifically to dredge up psychological flotsam, do you follow?

MYRNA: Yeah.

BRAHM: But rather simply to make use of that beautiful atmosphere and let the journey reveal its destination to you. Ultimately you are the destination, but how is the journey unfolding?

MYRNA: Right.

BRAHM: Consider it then a thing of great joy and beauty to simply add perspective to whom and what you are. That action alone can have constructive and enriching feedback. You do not need to utilize your dreams solely to look for the boogeyman! You can utilize them to look for the forgotten beauty that already exists, correct?

MYRNA: Yes.

ISABEL: Kris talked about the waking state so-called. I think I am representative of several people. I tend to stay awake as late as I can and try to busy myself and perhaps find answers in books you know at the conscious level, even though I'm aware that the dream state does have a lot of messages, I would like to have perhaps a bridge, if you could suggest something so I may go more willingly to bed and reach the other levels.

BRAHM: What is it you seek in books, but knowledge… information?

ISABEL: Yes.

BRAHM: Consider that the dreams will offer you a different representation of knowledge through forms of imagery which represents vast amounts of encapsulated concepts, all reduced in the form of a few images at times, much more condensed. Entire libraries of knowledge compressed in a few images, compared to a few tidbits that you can gather from many books. Does that make sense to you?

ISABEL: Yes.

BRAHM: And you will find that knowledge in that respect -- wisdom -- arrives not necessarily through the pathways of logic and rationality, but often through the pathways of imagination, intuition, emotions, etc. Different forms of wisdom. Knowledge is not limited to logical, rational purposes alone. Like any fine Japanese Samurai sword, it must be tempered to achieve its cutting edge, and its strength. Do you follow?

ISABEL: Yes.

BRAHM: Therefore, as a fine Japanese Samurai blade, allow yourself to be tempered through the use of intuition, rationality, emotions, logic, overall wisdom. Do you follow?

ISABEL: Yes.

BRAHM: You might find this perspective enticing. Especially to know that there is much wisdom to be gained from the dream state. Now, what is the time?

MARK: 9:31.

BRAHM: Then, we suggest that you all enjoy your adventures with EIDURRU. And we thank you deeply and acknowledge your lovely considerations and selves.

ALL: Thank you, Brahm.

(Session ends at 9:31 PM.)

Detailed Roll Call:

Toronto: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Myrna (Shara-Leene), John (Sohars), Katherine, Michelle, Isabel, Margaret
Delaware: Ellen (Kwaa'Ji) and Brian (El-Don/Enzo)
Hawaii: Tom (Desire)
New Jersey: Ella (Lazuli)
Ithaca, N.Y.: Jon (Reginald)
Mexico City: Marcos