Roll Call: Serge, Mark, Katherine, Ellen, Brian, Paul, Jo, Ester, Ella, Tom, Jon, Steve, Tom, and Lisa.
[MARK'S NOTES: As I found out on a walk session shortly after this session, it was NOT Kris who delivered this transcript. The energies, the personality that we refer to as Kris is now able to act as a bridge for 'more of' the Brahm energies, the Source of Kris' own Being. The walk transcript will be distributed as a newsletter in the VERY near future. It, along with the June 01, 2006 walk transcript will explain this phenomenon in more detail.]
(7:49 PM)
KRIS: Now we are glad that you have given us your consideration this evening and we are thankful for your presence even if it is through the auspices of your modern technologies. As the title for this evening implies, "The Secrets of the Ancients," we will be discussing a variety of perspectives of more ancient cultures as well as various technologies and perhaps delve into the very subject matter and topic of "ancient" and what that may mean. And to your immediate eyes, quite certainly images and ideas of old civilizations and cultures have already made themselves known to you, giving you a mild hint of some of the subject matter to be discussed, perhaps even in more than one evening.
As you may or may not be aware, your world and civilization [that] you participate [in] and help create is definitely not the first or the only civilization to cultivate technologies in the ways that you have and your civilization is not the first and by this we also take into consideration what you take to mean older civilizations. Perhaps you make a mental reference to the ancient Greeks and the Romans, the Egyptians, Assyrians, Acadians, Sumerians, Babylonians, perhaps you even take into consideration the ancient civilization of the Hindus Valley, Bharata, the Vedas, etc.
But it may even surprise you that your planet has seen a far greater number of civilizations come and go than your historians would ever admit to, and many of these various very older civilizations have left artifacts, some small and some not so small, in various parts of the world. And in many areas new discoveries are constantly coming to the light of study. Many of these ancient cultures have had their own versions of technological achievements, some that even surpassed your own present culture, even though some of these older, ancient civilizations have been without expression for many thousands of years.
And many of the artifacts and findings from these older cultures are not yet understood so they lie in the bottom of drawers in many museum basements, sometimes in the homes of collectors of ancient artifacts in private collections, and many still are undiscovered awaiting a sufficiently enlightened culture for them to be re-discovered in a manner of speaking. You think, for instance, that it is only your civilization that has discovered X-rays, lenses, dental work in the manner of your modern dentists and dentistry, surgery, electricity, mathematics, and so on.
And yet there are many such discoveries being made concerning the items mentioned and many more that pre-date your present culture by sometimes as much as three, four and five thousand years, which would indicate, in a manner of speaking, that those ancient artifacts and tools also took a long time to develop, as long as your own present modern tools have taken a long time to develop, which implies that some of these older civilizations had been working on these instruments for quite some time in the development of THEIR history.
And as we have mentioned in the past, it is often difficult for modern historians, archeologists and other scientifics to allow that some of these tools and instruments predate your own similar inventions by several thousands of years as if up to a certain point in ancient history these items are not supposed to be where they are. And since these bits of evidence and facts do not necessarily fit in the theories, they are assigned to those older historical periods. They are often relegated to ‘file 13’, or labeled as something else, or sometimes either destroyed, or there is a consensus to say that nothing exists, in spite of certain evidence.
And we mention these things because each of you listening in on this session or reading this transcript, as well as many others who may not be physically present at all, have participated in one way or another in these older displays of achievements and civilizations with many of you continuing the exploration in different circumstances and conditions within this lifetime. But above and beyond this we also wish to mention that for what many of you consider superstitions, myths, tall tales from older cultures of an apparent time when things were more MAGICAL, so to speak. Of a time when, from your perspectives, it is sometimes considered that these older cultures did not understand science as you know it today.
We do wish to mention that there indeed have been many periods where what you would call ancient civilizations functioned on an entirely different base of knowledge and information, where completely different understanding of physics as you know them were quite acceptable in such terms even that some of these would make no sense to you today, because you are accustomed to one specific mindset, whether it is global or localized. And even your notions of ancient cultures, ancient civilizations is slightly biased and prejudiced in perceptions with your modern worldviews and official line of consciousness.
Now we are not saying that everything, every old story and myth was necessarily true in the terms you understand it from your modern perspective, but many of these old ancient legends and stories indeed made a great deal of sense to those who operated within the parameters of these other times. And to you, it may seem that your age of scientific enlightenment and discovery is so far the greatest achievements of all civilizations; yet your age of scientific exploration and discovery, from our perspective is another kind of experiment or exploration, utilizing a different set of mental physics and rules, molding and shaping your perceptions within given sets of parameters quite unlike other civilizations that you would normally qualify as being in the past, since you see yourself as the future of these older cultures and civilizations.
But that is, again, only a perception and we believe it is important to explore and keep this in mind when looking at any other civilization that you automatically assume exists in the past, as it were. And you also keep in mind that perhaps a thousand, five thousand, ten thousand years into the future as it were, your entire sets of achievements and discoveries may themselves be classified perhaps in the same light as YOUR present perspective classifies the differences, the discoveries and the achievements of your ancestral foundations in that way.
And herein lays one of the keys. You may give some due consideration to the idea that you work with beliefs. Your life, your reality, your physical realm is the by-product of your collective and singular beliefs, but you need to develop an appreciation for the temporal nature of your journey through time and space. The ancient Vedics called material nature the illusion of Maya, or simply illusory nature, meaning simply that it is temporal, and not permanent... Non-temporal.
What IS truly non-temporal is the knowledge that it is your combined singular and collective point of concentration that generates a specific model and version of physical reality with all of its pros and cons as a conscious, mindful and deliberate experimentation on one type of line of consciousness. And in your view, it is referred to as the official line of consciousness; but even this is temporal. But within the temporal nature of this experimentation, there are hints, indeed, of things, for lack of a better word, that transcend the temporal nature of the world.
You are already aware of color as one of those intrinsic, eternal truths. We have some time ago hinted that there is another. We referred to it as soundlets. And in your reality this is expressed as various kinds of sounds, and quite specifically, musical sounds which, in terms of music, is something that is found within all cultures presently or anciently. And this is why in some respects; human beings enjoy expressing themselves through music to such a degree. (Pause) Not only in your present civilization, but all your past civilizations as well, and it will continue into what you can only surmise as being the development of future civilizations.
Now, as we have hinted at earlier, there is a very specific collective mindset within your civilization and this is one of the other keys that will be explored as the evening develops. What you can truly refer to as "ancients" have always understood. They speak of knowledge that collectives come together with a specific mindset, a collective purpose that is related to another discussion of ours from previous weeks in terms having access to your many minds and intelligences.
And just as on your biosphere, on your planet, remnants of ancient cultures are found stratified in different layers of soil, so do you have many different layers of minds and intelligences all operating very nicely and congruently within your own psyches, layered and laid out in such a fashion that it is possible, with practice, with determination and patience, to actually explore those inner domains, those inner layers of intelligences and inner civilizations within your own psyches. This is something that can be explored, but will not work for you if you expect that within the next five minutes you will gain access.
Another intrinsic proof that pierces the temporal nature of your physical world is dreams and dream states. All human beings, past, present and future, to one degree or another, must sleep and must dream for a variety of reasons. And dream states can be developed and utilized even from the waking perspective for extraordinary explorations and the cultivation of knowledge. And we must be clear here: we make a marked distinction between the gathering of information, information the likes of which is in clear abundance at all levels of your present society, sometimes merely for the sake of information itself. We do not consider this to be knowledge. You may know a thing, you may have knowledge of a thing, but it may not mean that you HAVE knowledge.
And then there are two distinctions of knowledge. There is knowledge that is akin to the types of information that permeates your modern society, the kind of knowledge cultivated with the mindset of the ancient Greeks, knowledge about the temporal manifestations of the world, which is a fine species of knowledge all on its own.
There is also another clearly distinct type of knowledge also often considered a worthy pursuit by the ancient Greeks and many of the older civilizations before them; This, a more wide-spread type of knowledge, and a more ancient one, which is called "knowledge of SELF", "SELF" all in capital letters, which must include the type of knowledge that distinguishes itself with temporal affairs and mere information for the sake of information.
It integrates these two within its matrix because it is part of the pursuit of SELF-knowledge, because it is created by SELF. When a society becomes fixated on the accumulation of information and makes that it’s base of knowledge only and loses sight of that which creates the information, then your society is to a certain degree, diminished. It loses touch with its own essential nature which transcends the temporal attributes information and the knowledge of things and how things work.
So our tendency is to affiliate with SELF-KNOWLEDGE. This is also an extremely important foundational truth and cannot be arrived at merely through the accumulation of information or the knowledge of things and how things work. This type of self-knowledge has fueled and motivated many of the greater civilizations, many of which have come and gone, but the knowledge of which is still embedded within your own psyche, your own selves. Now, what is the time?
MARK: 8:28.
KRIS: Then we suggest a small pause within which you may consider knowledge of SELF.
(Break begins at 8:28 PM)
MARK: How was that?
STEVE: Well, what I'd like to ask him sometime today is, he says these other civilizations are gone, I'd like to know how they ended. I mean are we talking about war, asteroids, ice age, and does he see any of that for us coming up?
ELLA: Well, maybe they shifted, right? We're not the first ones who shifted.
MARK: Yes … all of the above.
ELLA: Those are just the choices to withdraw from the experiment. The experiment has a beginning and an end.
MARK: There have been so many of them that they've ended in various different ways.
ELLA: Right, because the choices are multiple, depending on what was their objective, but I'm sort of interested in what Kris said about "independent experiments"? I don't think so because he said they [each] retain some portion of the knowledge of the prior civilization, so I guess there are continuances, to a degree, not entirely.
STEVE: Ella, what do you mean we would have gone out of business in the past life Shifted? You mean they went to another dimension or something?
ELLA: Well, my understanding is after you shift, eventually, not right away, but after you shift, you reach a certain level where it's not necessary for you to play in this particular playground and the Essences withdraw their point of attention and transfer to other dimensions. That's how I understand it. It just might be my interpretation.
STEVE: Well, I never heard that one before.
ELLA: Okay! Well, there's always a first time for everything!
(Laughter)
STEVE: I'm a little worried about this global warming that we're concocting and it might turn into some say, an ice age and we'll be under a mile of ice.
ELLA: Well, Steve, it ain't gonna happen while you are alive, I'm telling you that!
(Group laughter)
STEVE: I don’t' know...they say it can happen real quick!
ELLA: Well, then you die quick too, so don't worry! You'll go through transition and happily ever after.
STEVE: I don't want to be out scrounging for acorns.
Steve brings up various possible future catastrophes, including World War III and the bird flu epidemic. Elias, he states, recently said that the bird flu was an unlikely possibility. Paul says that Steve could have paid him (Paul) 50 bucks to tell him the same thing, to group laughter. Jo offers that during the California energy crisis a few years back, Elias maintained from the very beginning that there was no crisis, that it was an invention of the energy magnates, which later proved to be correct. Paul states that the bird flu scare is most likely just another attempt at fear-mongering in order to keep the population on edge and distracted from paying attention to themselves. "It's called 'the tail wagging the dog,'" said Serge.
JO: We're controlled through our fears.
PAUL: They're all important issues, of course, but the Armageddon scenario…
ELLA: They are a reflection of the state of the society, right? Of our global consciousness.
PAUL: How about the floods in the Northeast United States? That's [another] imagery of a major natural disaster. You know, pay attention to these things.
ESTER: I have to give you all a five-year-old's perspective on this issue. My niece, she says that there are too many people in the world and something needs to happen so a lot of them will die!
(Group laughter)
PAUL: She's a child of the Shift! Maybe she knows the anti-Christ!
ELLA: Steve, in respect to what you said before, if we are all collectively making decisions and that is what we are manifesting, I wonder you know, why we are all still doing that, because objectively the majority of people still don't adhere to these philosophies, but subjectively they are all out there and communicate, so I guess that's the reason for why we behave the way we behave.
LISA: More things to learn.
MARK: Ella, as long as we keep having internal conflicts, an internal dis-ease, we will continue to express it externally, so it's up to us individually and collectively to resolve these inner conflicts and become more intuned to Self -- the bigger Self, the whole Self.
ELLA: So what you're saying is the more of us who resolve these inner conflicts, the more we will shift the balance towards stabilizing this system?
MARK: Yes.
ELLEN: We all have our own inner Iran, inner Iraq, and inner Afghanistan. They're all reflections of our own inner turmoils.
MARK: And Ella, you just have to worry about your own inner conflict.
ELLA: Actually, I'm not worried about anything but me. I'm not looking at the news, and I'm not external as much right now. I was just responding to what Steve was concerned with before, when he was saying how we all produce all of these kind of pre-disaster situations. But what you just explained, I agree with, but I believe that subjectively we all communicate, right? We're all part of the same experiment, so what is going on right now? Is it by design…
MARK: (As Kris returns) Hang on!
(Break ends at 8:40 PM)
KRIS: Now do forgive us for edging in a word or two!
(Laughter)
Be it as it may, one of the most important things to keep in mind is that there are also many different kinds of ancients who have secrets, and there are definitely many so-called ancient civilizations that have come and gone, that have left behind artifacts, instruments and tools, some of which are not necessarily understood by your present cultures. And these are also a different kind of ancient, but we will play on the words here and state that whether you understand the definition or not in its entirety, does not eliminate from the game, that for all intents and purposes, you ARE the ancients, you ARE the moderns, you ARE the futures.
You yourselves are numberless civilizations of selves, and though we are well aware of your eternal nature, something which sometimes you gently need to be reminded of, we are also well aware that simply stating that all you need concern yourselves with is the fact that you are eternal, may not quite cut the mustard. You may, if you choose, bask in your eternalness, but what does an ancient eternal being do? Does it have a belly button to contemplate? Picking out cosmic lint? Or does it DO something? Does an ancient eternal being actually do something, other than bask in its eternalness?
Remember nothing is stale and static. The one characteristic above all else unique to consciousness is that it is always in a state of being and it explores that nature of being through its desires and its intent, its sentient intent and it takes on the roles and capacities of many things, such as lives, focuses…legions of focuses, in as many different periods of time and space of a temporal nature as is possible, setting up a game plan for the unleashing of its own creativity in as many ways as possible.
Thus, in a cosmic nutshell then, that is what you the listener, you the reader, do. You create opportunities up to and including focuses in as many different civilizations as possible, in as many different mindsets as possible, in as many different points of reference as possible. You do this, then you are not subject to the whims and visions of something other and greater than yourself. YOU do it. You create the temporal nature of time and space and all of the opportunities including other civilizations, that which you consider ancient civilizations.
And within you, therefore, are many GREAT secrets, the most secret of which is self-knowledge, something which many of you believe must be obtained through someone else, or through something else. And we wish to make this very clear, that you do actually contain many of the secrets of the ancients because YOU ARE THOSE ANCIENTS. And it is possible to have access at least to some of that material within yourselves and even though some of you may gripe about having to actually DO something to have access to that kind of knowledge and information contained within you, it is not as dire a situation as you sometimes make it to be, if you would only allow that which is already there to make itself known.
But you already have over much time become somewhat expert at denying, discounting and ignoring that which is there, thinking instead that you are in need of some saving, or something to that effect, through the auspices and agencies of others. It could even be said that you are Gods in the making, since you assign to the Gods and Goddesses those very creative principles that are yours to begin with. And you invent those legends and myths as a means to, and an attempt to, convey to your consciousness that ancient knowledge, those ancient secrets. And knowing that this is the case, can indeed tip the scale to your advantage, knowing that it is you who create those things in the first place.
Now, there are certain things that can be done to accelerate this knowledge, not only of self, but knowledge of, awareness of, other focuses that you may indeed have and we should re-phrase that, that you indeed DO have, in all of these other temporal situations. And that knowledge is not affected by the temporal nature of the time-space continuum, just as you are not. And we can indeed share with you one small means by which you CAN have access to some of the wealth of this knowledge. And we must state that this exercise will not grant you super wisdom, super knowledge, or super strength either.
It will not make you a super-human being, but it may indeed open the doors to another kind of inner knowledge. And this simply requires that, first of all, you find some means to work with recalling your dreams. And we are not qualifying it as only those dreams that occur when you sleep, but any dream that you recall. And that you understand that the recall of any dream, even a waking dream or a sleep dream, is an interpretation only and it will begin to open the gates of knowledge.
We wish to be very clear on this again; what you recall is an interpretation. We mention this because interpretations, which can still have various degrees of distortions, are often utilized and interpreted as absolutes, even to the point of science fiction stories becoming religions in themselves, so one should keep a clear distinction.
[Speaking slow and rhythmically.]
Now, one need only…YOU need only, right now find yourselves in a comfortable sitting position and gently close your eyes, or leave them open, as you prefer, and gently begin a process of gentle, slow deep breaths that allows you to be relaxed. And as you continue slowly breathing and relaxing, you become more and more concentrated on the sound of our voice, and your breathing gently enters a rhythmic process very similar to that rhythm that exists when you are in a deep sleep, but in this case you do not fall asleep, you listen gently to the sound of our voice, but the depth of the relaxation is similar to the state generated in a deep sleep.
And as you continue to focus upon the sound of our voice, you allow all of your pre-conceived notions of time and space and objects in that time and space, including the space you are presently in, including the room your physical form is gently relaxing in, and all of that to gently melt and slip away from you as if it were little more than water drops running away from your body when you shower. Time, space, objects and forms just run off of you, melting away whilst you are still focusing on the sound of our voice as a secure anchor.
And as the sound of our voice securely cuddles you, you can allow yourself to explore what other ancient time, space, and even forms that exist around you that is cuddled by the sound of our voice as if you are looking out a bubble of awareness into another ancient time and place. Take a moment to look about, observe what you are noticing.
(Pause)
Apart from the sound of our voice, do you hear other things? What do you see? What do you sense? What do you feel? What do you smell? What do you experience? (Long Pause)
Take another moment to consider what you may look like and feel like in that other time and space of ancient Source.
(Pause)
What gender might you be? How are you dressed? What is your physique like?
(Pause)
And once again pay attention to the sound of our voice and let that environment and all awareness of it run off you like water running off your body. And concentrate on the voice that is being heard by you in the room you are in.
Take a gentle but deep breath, making yourselves aware of your body, returning your breathing to its more regular state as in when you awaken. Move your fingers and toes. Breathe deeply and on the count of three you will be completely aware of your usual, physical surroundings. One, two, move your hands and feet, wrists and ankles, arms and legs, and three, you are fully aware, fully returned to your forms and to yourselves. And take a small break.
MARK: 9:07.
(Second break begins at 9:07 PM.)
[During break a few people offered their experiences during the meditations. We ran out of time for everyone to be able to recount their explorations, so Mark asked that anyone who had an experience to email him and he would add them at the bottom of the transcript.]
(Kris returns at 9:18 PM)
KRIS: Earlier on, we made mention of your perceptions being somewhat prejudiced in favor of your culture and civilization being somewhat the epitome of human endeavor and thus past civilizations being considered although nice and interesting places to visit, they are quite likely somewhat more primitive according to your prejudiced perceptions and definitions.
And we do want to make a point of this, because, to a large degree, you focused in those particular areas and you interpreted some of your actions of consciousness in light of your prejudiced perceptions. It is quite likely that another ancient culture or civilization may not necessarily have developed the automobile as you know it, but you might be surprised to find that quite ancient cultures not only had hot and cold running water, but fully flushable crappers!
(Group laughter)
And as the expression goes, that ain't no shit, Sherlock!
(Gales of Laughter.)
Though to your perceptions, an older culture might appear as more primitive, do not be too quick to rationalize it in that light of prejudiced perceptions. Many ancient cultures had use of electricity, not specifically for lighting their homes as you do, but for other uses up to and including healing the physical body. It is now known that, the ancient Egyptians and we are not talking of the Egyptians commonly referred to in your history books, but THEIR ancestors, the ones who built the foundations for the pyramids and so forth.
They had use of electricity for electroplating and we know that in your culture it is almost scandalous to even mention that you are not the first to have discovered electroplating, but you are not. Other ancient cultures, including the Egyptians, the ANCIENT Egyptians, had sophisticated methods for brain surgery and cranial evidence shows that many patients not only survived, but thrived.
So we simply wish to make a point that sometimes your perceptions may taint your experiences, thinking that sometimes an ancient past experience might be primitive in some way, just as you might tend to think future explorations in this manner may be more sophisticated in some way, though they might not.
There might even be regressions, if for instance there is a potential for a global cataclysm of some kind which has occurred on your planet before, thus eradicating many foundations of knowledge. Knowledge of things and knowledge of Self, leaving you only with the instinct to survive in a hostile environment until such time as you are sufficiently capable of RE-ACCESSING ancient knowledge, ancient wisdom, and RE-INVENTING, as well as inventing new things as has occurred in your distant past. Now what is the time?
MARK: 9:25
KRIS: Indeed then! Perhaps, if you are all in agreement, and willing and desiring we will return next teleconference pursuing this lovely topic, deepening the exploration, guiding you into yet further memories and awareness of ancient secrets. And with that, we wish you many pleasant dreams.
If you wish to give yourselves suggestions for deepening dream exploration along this topic, you may request a dream to help you cross the Bridge of AARONII. If you wish a spelling, it is Double A, R, O, N, Double I. AARONII. (Pronounced AIR-O-NYE) And form that in your mind as you drift to sleep. You may perceive experiences that night or shortly thereafter, but it requires that you keep some writing of your dreams, and perhaps those related dreams can even be brought and discussed at the next session. Perhaps Philip may be so kind as to open the line for a moment?
[Mark un-mutes everyone.]
And, if there are one or two short questions, perhaps you could share for us, relevant to topic. We may decide whether to answer or not.
ELLEN: What does AARONII mean?
KRIS: You have heard of the ancient Greek story of crossing the River Styx into the Underworld?
ELLEN: Oh, yes.
KRIS: This is of course, entirely allegorical in spite of the fact that there is an underground river used in ceremonies related to the Oracle of Delphi, both in ancient Egypt and in Greece. The Grecian one formulated on the ancient Egyptian model.
Egyptologists believe that they are fully aware of the pantheon of the Egyptian Gods and Goddesses in all their where-with-outs. However, the original Egyptians had yet even older myths. And we are speaking here of a time before the Great Ice Age, in excess of 10,000 years in your historical past.
These ancient Egyptians, referred to as the Netjer, not related to OUR Netjer, these ancient Netjer had their own myths, their own psychological developments, their own mindsets. One was an ancient healing process to access the deep parts of the subconscious as you have it, and it did involve crossing a bridge with a deity, a source of energy, referred to as AARONII, that was meant to travel with the individual, in this case likely a patient and lead him to explore the contents of his subjective awareness.
Keep in mind that even your ideas of subjective awareness may sometimes pale in comparison to a full, three-dimensional subjective awareness whereas your culture and civilization still only experiences within it from an observer point of view and not a participant. In these ancient times, AARONII would travel with the individual, helping the individual become much more fully aware of the contents of his or her own subjective awareness, thereby often leading to the recognition of, the causes of, discomforts, disease, malaise, etc.
This is an ancient part of your awareness heritage and you can request then, that this ancient imprint in your subconscious be brought forward to travel with you and assist you in these inner explorations whilst you sleep. Does this answer your lovely question?
ELLEN: (Laughing. I didn't expect the detail in Kris' answer) Absolutely!
KRIS: Indeed then.
STEVE: Kris? Are you listening?
KRIS: Indeed.
STEVE: Stick around longer, we enjoy chatting with you. The question I had was: each one of these older civilizations probably had some cataclysmic event, as you say is our potential now to wipe them out...I know that just as our subjective awareness cannot predict the future, because the future hasn't really happened yet, but you can perceive present probabilities' likelihoods, whatever the probabilities are, for happening in the future. Whether they come true or not is not what I'm asking. Is there any present probability that one of these cataclysmic events is a current likelihood, probability to occur to wipe out a whole lot of us?
KRIS: The human race would only engage in such actions if the race itself disconnects from its own value fulfillment in the present moment and wishes to pursue a different kind of experience in value fulfillment. Your race nearly had such an event with the plagues in the Middle Ages, the Bubonic plague to be exact; something which is not fully eliminated from your reality, even to this day.
There are perhaps, a hundred or two individuals in North America and Europe that still develop the Plague as a potential reminder, in a manner of speaking, that you could have suffered the cataclysm and elimination of your species by disease, because you all lost heart in your convictions about yourselves. You may not completely eradicate and eliminate diseases, even with your Shift.
Some people need some way to get out of physical existence when they change their minds. Presently there are many kinds of potentials that can explode in your faces, so to speak, but none so great that you cannot resolve them, and THAT IS THE POINT. You can CHOOSE to resolve some of your challenges and issues, instead of jumping for the old pre-emptive strike pattern. Do you follow?
STEVE: Yeah, could you give me an example of a past civilization? What made them decide to bring it all to a screeching halt?
KRIS: There was a very large civilization in Central America many millions of years ago that had far-reaching influences and impacts and that -- subjectively only -- decided to opt out by a cataclysm. This culture was situated where now is found the Gulf of Mexico and they drew upon themselves the creation of a massive meteor, giving them the opportunity to shift somewhere else. Now, what is the time?
MARK: 9:40.
KRIS: Now then, we must leave you and your lovely selves wherever in time and space they are, for you to enjoy and discover prejudiced perceptions or not. And with that, we bid you pleasant AARONII dreams.
ALL: Thank you, Kris.
MARK: While I have everybody's attention: since obviously we don't have enough time to hear everybody's experiences they had during the meditation, we would appreciate it if some of you would email us at krischronicles@gmail.com some of your experiences you had and we can add them at the bottom of the transcript.
[ELLEN’S NOTES: Some brief discussion ensued following on Kris' description of the cataclysm that occurred in Central America many millions of years ago. Paul stated that a meteor impact wouldn't leave much archeological evidence other than a crater hole. Mark said that the Gulf of Mexico itself IS the crater. Steve wondered if all members of civilization were "in on that deal." ]
PAUL: They'd have to be.
STEVE: What if you wanted to opt out?
PAUL: Then you wouldn't have been affected by it. You'd have been off fishing in your dinghy in the Caribbean somewhere, if you'd survived the tidal wave.
ELLEN: (Dryly humorous) Steve would have found a way to get there.
(Laughter)
PAUL: You know, back to Seth, basic Seth, there's no death that is an accident at all, on any level.
(Kris returns)
KRIS: Do keep in mind that we only concentrated upon THAT specific locale, however, the shock waves and the tsunamis that would have been birthed by the impact would have been felt around the planet where many others also jumped on the bandwagon, so to speak, for their various purposes. Just as many perished, many survived, setting roots for many foundations for other cultures, mythologies, civilizations and when they perished, the survivors of THOSE cultures and civilizations may have gone on to set seeds and roots elsewhere and on and on.
There are always some left behind to instill new potentials and the memories of those things are all within your psyches. Sleep sometime if you wish, and even request the AARONII take you to that moment. But you have to provide your own popcorn! (Chuckles) And there may not be any academies or any awards for those performances, but rest assured that indeed much knowledge and many self discoveries to be made. What kind of nations, cultures, and civilizations did you give birth to, OR did you perish with? Inquiries for inquisitive minds indeed and a blessed good night.
MARK: 9:46.
[ELLEN’S NOTES: A request was made for a summary of the AARONII dream method. Since I had asked Kris for the meaning of AARONII, I had taken down notes and now read them off to the group, so that everyone could practice the method during the two weeks until the next teleconference.]
STEVE: (Jokingly) Ellen, did you used to be an executive secretary for a CEO somewhere?
ELLEN: I should have, shouldn't I?!
(Laughter)
MARK: You ARE one for the Brahm Group!
PAUL: [This AARONII practice] is like the Gates of Horn on steroids!
(Group cracks up)
PAUL: (Words lost)...more specificity to the practice, but I think its accessing similar areas.
ELLA: Kris promised at the next teleconference to offer more exercises, right?
MARK: He's going to continue the topic.
ELLA: Yeah, but he also said he wants to go deeper, so I assume that he's going to give more exercises.
ELLEN: He wants us to practice this and write down and offer our dreams at the next teleconference.
ELLA: I had a question: I know that a lot of you record your dreams. Do you just keep a paper by your bed, or use a recorder, or what do you do?
ELLEN: That's the way I do it. I just keep a paper and pen by my bed.
PAUL: Tape recorders. I keep a tape recorder by the bed, and get up and go into the bathroom and its two AM or whatever, while it's fresh, I get off whatever details I can.
ELLEN: (Humorously) Oh Jo, he's so considerate!
(Laughter)
ELLA: If you wake up, you don't go right back to sleep? You just right away record whatever you can, right?
PAUL: Well, it depends. Sometimes you wake up and you actually run through the videotape so to speak, to make sure you're getting the four or five major scenarios before you even move a muscle, because you might forget something by the time you get to the bathroom.
ELLEN: Yeah, it's actually important not to move [the first few minutes], because the more awake you become, the more you start forgetting, or you start revising and interpreting.
ELLA: All right. That makes sense.
PAUL: And then you can take that tape and the next morning write it into your word processor or write it down, and you'll get other hints and other bits and pieces.
ELLA: I've been recording them for awhile, maybe a couple of months, and I've been really good at it and it helped me to find a dream trigger, but the trouble is, that it takes forever to record them, and I don't have much time in the morning before work, so I haven't yet found the balance to do it.
PAUL: It's a central practice. You know, tonight he said that's the very first step.
ELLA: Well, I can do it, it's just....you know....you have to write and write and write forever!
ELLEN: Yeah (chuckling)...I take a pen and paper with me on my job and just…
ELLA: Yeah, well...I guess there really is no other way....it's a silly question, I understand, because you have to do it!
ELLEN: But some snippets will come back to you ...you know....as you're writing, as you're thinking, pondering about it, some things will start to come back to you...
ELLA: I guess what I was asking really was, do you guys also spend as much time writing them down, because sometimes they come very detailed. It actually takes some time, it's like you're writing a little story.
ELLEN: Yeah, it's true!
PAUL: An hour. I'll spend an hour.
ELLA: Okay, that's what I wondered, because roughly it takes me half an hour to an hour.
PAUL: All these practices are to help you concentrate your awareness on that type of information that second kind of knowledge of Self. They're just tools in the toolbox to concentrate on subjective awareness. These are central to the ‘Avatar Yoga’ that Kris is teaching. I'm sitting here being a cheerleader for this: find the time! This is really important. You'll only go so far as you're able to concentrate.
ELLEN: Yeah, the onus is on you.
PAUL: And we synergize with each other, some of us make breakthroughs that motivates others of us to (words garbled here) [dedicate more time and energy to do it.]
ELLEN: There are periods of time, too, when you won't have a lot of dream recall. You won't have a lot of dream activity. It will still be there, but you just won't recall it very well. Sometimes you are more involved into things that are happening in daily life and that's good, really. You go through cycles like that.
ELLA: I guess the key is to just do it without expectation. Sometimes I write down dreams, (words garbled here) [and what next? What do you do with what you've recorded?]
ELLEN: I've written down my dreams and a year or two later, I'll go through my journal and then it all starts coming together and I understand a lot more than I did at the time I wrote them down.
MARK: Ella, one thing that I found personally [helpful] was, that every time Kris would tell me to write my dreams down, I would imagine a billion different reasons for NOT doing it and then I wouldn't do it. Finally it hit me. I turned around and I saw a picture in my mind of me waking up in the morning and writing them down. And sure enough, I've been doing it.
ELLA: Picturing the way to get up in the morning?
MARK: Just picture doing it! [Writing down my dreams.]
ELLA: Basically you stop making excuses? You start picturing the solution.
MARK: That's right.
ELLA: That's actually very good, I appreciate that.
[ELLEN’S NOTES: There is a short period of bantering with Steve about our creation of cataclysmic events, but the recording was degrading and difficult to transcribe. Steve also asked about dream practice and Paul and I both re-iterated the importance of dream recall and recording. Steve said that he had trouble understanding the meaning of dreams and I assured him it didn't matter, that sometimes months and even years can pass by before complete understanding comes.
Paul reminded him that Kris told us not to take our dreams too literally. He stated that even after 27 years of dedicated dream record-keeping, he still often is bemused by the dream content, but that he doesn't worry about it. He finds patterns improve over time that he recognizes certain dream imagery as dealing with certain issues, whether health-centered, relationship-centered, personal growth issues, or creative issues etc. He emphasized to not be overly literal and demanding of linear results because dreams don't work that way.
Shortly thereafter, the participants were reminded once again to email their dream experiences and everyone called it a night.
(Session Ends)
MEDITATION EXPERIENCES
Mark’s Meditation: During the meditation I was able to see MANY different focuses of mine, including a future focus of mine in Germany. I saw Pele, a small boy and an African boy about the same age who I have seen before, but can’t remember his name right now.
I saw myself as a native Indian on a Palomino horse on the plains below the Colorado Mountains. I saw the wise old man with the long beard which is a version of, or ONE image of Philip that comes to me every now and then AND I also noticed LOTS of children during this particular meditation. That is not the norm for me.
I continued scanning for images and feeling tones when my mind passed over South America. Suddenly I became VERY aware of a focus of mine there.
To jump back into my own history, I discovered several years back that when my mother was a child, she told my Grandmother that she had been a Mayan Princess. Of course they all had a good laugh over that, but when I heard about it, I knew it was true, even if my mother dismisses it now.
Now, jumping back into the meditation, when I became aware of MY Mayan focus, I realized that my focus was VERY close to my mother’s focus. I am not sure if I was her father or maybe her sister or even a very close confidant, such as a teacher or shaman. I didn’t get much insight into my focus, just the knowledge and understanding that that was where my Mom and I bonded and began our explorations in physical dimensions together.
I left the meditation emotionally strong and connected. LOVED, I felt LOVED… and Loving.
Ella's Meditation: I knew I was going deeper this time almost from the start. I disappeared from the room and felt myself floating in the darkness even before Kris suggested doing so. It felt like lying on a cloud in a purplish hazy light while the rest of the space was dark.
As Kris suggested that he envelops us with his voice I had an imagery of being in his hand, while he is in the middle of a sort of clock. I was able to move the hand clockwise and counter-clockwise changing the focus of my attention, going counter-clockwise felt like going to the beginning of time, so to speak. I remember going counter-clockwise and looking at the scenery changing in front of me. At some point I decided to stop as something attracted my attention. I saw a small village and funny looking small people in it. There was a tug at my heart, as if I should have known them, and then there were big bold letters in my head, like a yelp of recognition, THE SHIRE. At that moment so much joyful energy entered my green energy center if felt like a jolt. If felt for a moment that I was home.
Then I moved again in the same direction, and again changing imagery was flying past me but I had no wish to stop until I saw some wispy looking beings on Earth. Somehow inside I knew I'm seeing my Dream Walker aspect at that time, but I did not connect emotionally, just watched for a while, as they were all busy and moving with purpose. They appeared to be sort of gliding above the surface rather then walking.
Realizing I went very far toward the beginning I changed the direction until a wonderful feeling of flight took over. I stopped and saw myself as a mythological creature, which looked like a hybrid of human and bird, human torso and bird’s claws to perch on a branch, and large beautiful wings, which allowed it to glide in the air very gracefully. I felt myself / it flying and gliding and there was such a sense of freedom in that movement that I did not want it to stop. Eventually this being found a branch to seat on and I moved on in the counter-clockwise direction once again. This time I wanted to see how far I could go.
I was moving the hand until there was just Earth covered with vegetation and nothing else. At least that is how it appeared to me. At first I wanted to leave immediately as there was nothing there and then I felt a pull, a connection from the Earth itself. It was conscious and it conveyed tremendous love to everything on it, as everything was part of it. It felt as if the Earth was very maternal... Loving and proud of everything that is and will be. That is the best way I could describe what I felt. It was a very powerful and loving connection...
After that I wanted to go back to the times closer to ours and find someone, which looked like us now. I started moving the hand clockwise and stopped when I recognized a focus I've connected to once before and really liked. She is a very old Eskimo woman, called Mother Tak but her tribe. At the time I saw her she was sitting outside and working on stitching some closing from the fur skin. Children were sitting around her and she was telling them stories of the olden times. It was a lovely picture, very homey and kind. Mother Tak has bronze wrinkled skin. Her cheeks are tattooed and her gray hair is in two braids. I want to say that she lives in 14th century, but not entirely sure of that impression.
At that point Kris called us back. End of journey.
Ellen's Meditation: I saw myself as a young lad, very simply dressed in a shapeless tunic sort of thing, very homespun looking. I flashed on goats and/or sheep and him goading them about, a small village of humble little stucco-like houses. I saw a hillside and he went up it, driving the animals along. At the top he looked out over the vista and saw an army, or troop of soldiers amassed down below. He wanted to go with them, I felt that strongly, and I THINK he was probably, really, too young, but got the definite impression that he went anyway, either against his family’s wishes or simply left without them knowing, and despite his age was received by the commander of the troop.
I got a strong feeling of the attraction he felt for their armor and the taste for adventure. I had a very slight feeling of wistfulness, maybe even sadness seemed to come from looking at it all in retrospect, as if from a knowing perspective of seeing his youthful folly and naiveté and the likely outcome of his discovery later that war ain’t pretty. When Kris brought us back up to normal consciousness, I noticed a single tear had slid down beside my nose, which surprised me, because I didn’t think I was that far “under” not to have noticed something like that. So there was a bit of an emotional connection to the scene, that I didn’t fully register.
I don’t know exactly what time period it occurred in, but it felt like sometime BC, Biblical times, in the Middle East somewhere.
Joanne's Meditation: I imagined myself walking in a light rain (it was raining outside and I could hear it), barefoot on a dirt path. A guide put a warm wrap, and his arm, around my shoulders and an umbrella over us as we walked the path along a riverbank to our left. Ahead of us was a bridge and I imagined an undefined figure on it. When we got to it, I thanked my guide, and took the two wooden steps onto the small bridge. I notice that this is beginning to feel beyond the realm of my imagination. The figure on the bridge is now facing me and takes my hand to lead me across. He is floating, I look up at him.
He wears a long aqua blue robe, his hair is light brown and full, his face is middle aged, kindly and chiseled with hooked nose. He floats backward as he leads me across the bridge which halfway across gets longer and the other side takes on a different, hazy appearance. I begin to float. We float higher, above natural landscapes, then into a tarry sky, a familiar space for me that makes me feel that I’m “out there,” but have trouble holding onto. And I do again, and soon go to sleep.
Paul's Meditation: My impressions began with A-frame (which would foreshadow something later, at the end). That A morphed into a snow-covered volcano in the distance and a town nearby. My rational mind kicked in and the image ceased. Doh!
I got a brief A-frame morphing into a pyramid. I saw a male member of royalty dressed in Medieval garb, looking much like a prince or king. He morphed into a male dressed in Egyptian garb, with a short maroon skirt and dark, striped head-gear like that on the sphinx. He was some kind of engineer.
Then my mind drifted, there was a beautiful granite stairway that descended into..... what? My rational mind kicked in again, and the scene vanished.
Finally, I got an image of some kind of machine with a five foot rotating blade, like a giant fan, but with blue and red lights, and other things I couldn't quite grasp.
The A-frame was a precognitive sensing of the "Bridge of “AARONII" (pronounced air-oh-nigh) exercise Kris gave at the end of the session.
Tom [N.J.] Experience: I see a man, an Indian from ancient India that does not appear to be technological advanced. He is tall and lean and has a dark skin of a hue not common in current day U.S. This man is me.
The temperature appears to be warm, but not hot or humid. The man is wearing brown and or tan clothing. It may be leather and suede. He is holding something; perhaps a hunting device. He is standing at the curbside looking around. There are many people about moving at different gaits. There does not appear to be any automotive vehicles. While the area is not filthy it is still not clean, perhaps it is worn, tired. The man is alert and as he steps off the curb into the street my perspective changes. I am now seeing everything through his eyes. I hear the sounds of the people talking, walking, their carriages and animals. I try to look about me. I see smoke rise from my left.
It has the flavor of meat in it. Someone is cooking meat in the street and selling it. Then it happens: Someone touches my right elbow. I experience exhilaration, surprise, shock, joy and instant recognition. This is my brother. This part seemed the most real and the least forced. But who is my brother? It is not the brother of this current life in the U.S. It may be my father, who is purported to be my brother in another life. Could it have been Ramruva or even Kris?
Lisa' Meditation: I started writing this after the session thinking I'll remember more into the week but I just didn't have time. Had to put in way too many hours at work....
Here's what I can remember: There must be a lot from my conscious mind here cause I don't take the time to meditate so it's hard to say what I'm making up and what's flowing....
I was weightless and suspended in outer space with a fog enveloping my whole body in a warmth. I look down at an angle and see the Earth. Its beautiful dark blue color, the weather patterns, clouds, I dive toward it, and as I get closer, I see the landmass is a bit different, there are also two moons.
I am on the Earth, desert, building pyramids with sound. It's a warm day with a strong wind blowing. I am male, average height, with long, dark, curly hair, a bit of a stocky build, wearing a white Greek toga, I have no shoes or shirt. My feet are wide. My skin is dark brown. I'm in charge and am directing people. I think it is Egypt, but it may not be. I hear a singing type of chant in the distance, and I sing along. All of us who are present at the pyramid building site are creating a sound in our minds through imagining it and we're directing it toward the rocks as we move them and place them. There's a large metal looking tuning fork that's creating a sound that we can't hear.
I "felt" being that other focus. Like I was allowed to by the focus? The hair, the body, the muscles, I look alright. Not ugly, and not eye-candy either. I am in this moment, then I step back, he "feels" me and we acknowledge each other and I go away.
DREAMS OF AARONII EXPERIENCES
Mark’s Dream: I had this dream on the morning of May 22, 2006 the morning after the International Session called “Secrets of the Ancients – Part 1”. It is important to note that, first of all I never remember as many details as I did with this dream. Also, I usually only remember one dream and sometimes have a vague impression of a second, but this morning I REMEMBERED THREE dreams.
This is the third (last) and the major dream that I had:
SETTING: A house, a BIG beautiful mansion with LOTS and LOTS of rooms, hallways, doorways, entranceways, closets and people. This mansion had wonderful character and was well lived in.
CHARACTERS:
Master of the House: The Master of the house was never seen, but it was openly understood that this individual was GREATLY respected. He is wealthy beyond many ideas of wealth and he is a loving, compassionate, well traveled and educated Being.
The Butler: This individual was a very devoted, loving and caring man. He loved his job. He loved the house, its master and his wife.
The Wife: This is an elderly woman who on one hand has all of her faculties, but on the other hand is considered to be quite mad and on the verge of insanity. Her ramblings are often considered to be ‘crazy’.
Me: I was in the dream (of course).
Others: There were MANY other people in this dream which is a bit unusual. There were many people visiting the house, working in the house, living in the house, etc. Also, I had at least two companions with me when I entered the house.
THE DREAM: I suddenly become aware that my companions and I are in this wonderful house. We are talking to the Butler and his wife. They are very nice people. The wife is going on and on about “The Lost Children”. The Butler leaves and we are left talking to the wife about the lost children. She hands me a book, a comic book I believe, but there is a coded story in it that if we decipher it, it will lead us to the lost children. She also hands me some other documents.
The Butler comes back and gets angry because we are upsetting his wife and kicks us out of the house. We regroup and with the help of an insider, we get back in. We then begin to explore and snoop for clues into the mystery of these lost children. At this point it is exciting. I feel like one of the Hardy Boys or Scooby Doo, but unlike the cartoons and fiction, I am part of the action and my emotions are strong. When I am hiding in the house or snooping around, I feel FEAR, fear of getting caught. I also feel all of the emotions in regards to helping prove that this woman is not senile and in trying to unravel this mystery. Overall, my emotions during this dream were all positive and joyous.
At one point I run head on into the Butler. He is mad and demands to know what I am doing in the house. I told him the truth. I told him that I am trying to unravel the mystery of the lost children. The Butler, at this point admits that he is uncertain whether the lost children were a result of this woman’s delusions or if they really existed and CAUSED her madness. He agrees to turn a blind eye to my explorations and to help distract some of the occupants of the house that may want to prevent me from finding these lost children, JUST AS LONG AS I don’t disrupt the household, his wife or the Master of the Household.
CONCLUSION:
The House itself and the Master of the House represent SELF, as in my WHOLE SELF.
The Butler represents my EGO, a very loving and devoted individual who has a job to do, but if I work WITH him and don’t disrupt the household, I can explore and have fun inside of the house. The Butler can also be considered the OFFICIAL line of consciousness.
The Wife represents the UNOFFICAL line of consciousness or my Subjective awareness. She is always giving me clues as to other aspects of my own Self. Of course, the Butler thinks that she is mad and is uncertain whether there is any truth to what she tells me.
The Lost Children represent other Focuses or Expressions of Essence.
The other people in the house represent other ASPECTS of my own Self. Some of them help me to find the lost children and some of them hinder me, but needless to say ALL of them have the best interest of the HOUSE and of the MASTER of the House at heart or, in other words, MY best interests at heart.
Ella’s Dreams: I requested AARONII’s help as well. It was intriguing...
I remember three dreams. The first one left just a general idea...
The second reflects on some of my beliefs on "corrupted top".
Third reflected on how my fears are often are self-imposed
4/22/06 AARONII dreams
1) The only memory of the first dream I have is some vague idea about telescopic nature of knowledge, of learning. The more you learn the further you could extend yourself...But I lost the rest as soon as I woke up at about 2am to write it down.
2) This dream had darker overtones of being lied to and knowing about it.
Me and my coworkers are in some large and tall office building located in what looked like jungle, with a huge tree almost the height of the entire building growing in the middle of it. I remember our CEO telling us that they are planning to take of the tree, and then later as we were walking down the stairs which go around the tree, we saw a worker watering it with some dirty water. Somehow I knew that the management wants this tree gone and they are killing it, but don't want to tell us. I felt that the 'top' is corrupt in this dream...
3) In this part my son saw me being intimate with my husband, and at first I was horrified, but when I came out to talk to him he let me kiss him as if nothing happen, and I knew that he understood that what he saw was normal. He did not judge. It was a relief...
Ellen’s Dream: I had only a few hours of sleep last night, but I did ask for an Aaronii dream, and I awoke with this dream:
I am in my backyard where I have a garden, and at the far end of it there is a wooden fence and gate, beyond which is another garden that I have nearly forgotten about, left neglected for I don't know how long.
The gate is rickety, wooden -- reminds me very much of my real wood gate that gave me the splinter that led to my writing of my "Jane Roberts, Splinter" article -- and as I go to open it, I notice a large spider lurking under the latch and I withdraw my hand hastily. Now I am squeamish about opening the gate, but want to tend to that garden.
My son comes up and I figure out some way for him to hold one side of the gate frame that will allow me to open the gate without either disturbing the spider or risking having to touch it or deal with it in any way. I know this is ridiculous, but my old revulsion of spiders is prevalent in the dream, though I wouldn't dream of hurting it or killing it, I just want it out of the way. As we are discussing this, the spider sticks out a leg and at the end of the leg is a strange little five-fingered spidery hand. For some reason, this makes us laugh.
The spider is one of my totems, and a hard one for me, as I have an old innate revulsion of spiders. But the spider is a totem of the creative writer and artist and has much to teach about creativity and the weaving of words and images, so I've been trying to embrace the spider imagery of late. The labyrinth is also evocative of the web of the spider, so the spider itself can be representative of shadow work.
One of my recurring shadows is the creative blocks I often find myself up against, really just not believing in myself, or putting huge, but illusory obstacles in my path that keep me from reaching my goals. In this dream, I already have a nice garden and yard that is flourishing, but I have a hankering to go and develop this other one, an old neglected one that I have the feeling I could nurture and revitalize, but there's that old creepy spider that I have to get past.
Joanne’s Dream: My dream recollection from that night was scattered, but I had these dreams the following night (5/23):
There was a huge eagle carrying two children, flying towards me. The eagle was holding onto one with his talons and the other was holding on to that child. I stood out in the street and saw this coming towards me, and I realized this eagle needed to try to deliver these children, and needed my help. I held out my arms as he flew right towards me. The first pass, I grabbed the child who was on the bottom. It was a small boy, about 2-3 years old. On the second pass, I had the boy in my left arm, and I grabbed the infant girl with my right arm.
In another scenario, there was a red countryside, and we decided to travel into it without any need for trepidation, we decided, because it probably wasn’t as scary as it looked. We thought it would change to green as we went, and it did, from red to yellow to green, but not as brilliant green as I’d desired but was approaching that before the dream ended.
Paul’s Dream: This dream occurred Monday morning, after the previous evening's Kris session. I am on a bus explaining the Spiral Dynamics integral color scheme to people. (Spiral Dynamics is an integral psychology system based on stages if human and cultural development. The bus is a recurring symbol of traveling between dimensions, and movement, dealing with issues, in physical terms).
I go through the first tier colors from PURPLE to ORANGE. As I introduce the second tier, YELLOW and TURQUOISE, I explain how these stages involve more than the sum of ALL the previous stages. In the dream state, the subjective FEELING of this difference was VAST, just incredible. It was the first time I really experienced it from the inside, so to speak.
So when I woke up, I had that feeling, knowing that this was a dream related to the Bridge of AARONII that Kris had just introduced.
Tom [N.J.] Dream: I seem not to be remembering my dreams since that night. I have tried to cross the bridge or AARONII (or as I like to spell it: Eironai) but nothing; the one significant dream that I can remember occurring while I dosed off waiting for my elder daughter to fall asleep. I dreamt that I was in a closing and woke happy and satisfied. This is auspicious because I just recently got my real estate license and just got my first listing. As if to reinforce the sentiments of this dream, a friend of mine dreamt that same night that I sold my listing.
Lisa’s Dream: Here's one I remember.
AARONII Dream:
1st impression: My Mom is gone (passed away) and I see my step dad passed out drunk wearing formal attire. He had a duffel bag close by that was partly open. I peeked inside and it was filled with copies of the Bible. (Real life: Mom is alive, and step dad is NOT a drunk but is a very spiritual man).
I am aware that my husband is with me, but I never see his face. He's right there with me, at all times, throughout the dream, I feel very secure with him around. I feel his presence the whole time. (I realize later on that my "husband" in the dream is not really my present husband but more of a guide that I felt comfortable with)
The Scene: A Christmas party at a house. My house, but it's not any physical house that I recall ever being in, but the place was so familiar, I've been there before, many times, and knew my way around. So though it was supposed to be my house, I was aware that it was a symbolic house. Like, it's a certain place that I go when I dream, and though the house, the land, the surroundings are always different, it's still the same place. ( I don't know if that makes sense to any of you )
I knew almost everyone at the party, and there were little groups of people within the party that made up the party. I "greeted" a lot of people at the party with a head nod, but I never socialized with anyone else at the party but close family members. It was like everyone knew it was Christmas, and everyone also knew that my Mom had just recently passed away, so they we're giving me and my family some space.
It was a strange Christmas. I had no presents to give, totally unprepared. My one brother who hardly ever gives presents was the only one who had presents for us all. He was also so very jolly, (he's a very serious man in real life) which surprised me somewhat until I realized that though he is my brother in this life, and I am perceiving him as my brother in this dream, he is actually the same energy but someone else.
I was looking for other family members that I have in this lifetime, and thought that they must all be dead, otherwise they would all be here, so I asked my other siblings if they sometimes forget that people they know have died, and then you try to call them on the phone, then as you call, you remember that they've died. They all said "no, of course not" and I thought it was strange that it only happens to me. I also thought it strange that they didn't know of our other siblings that have passed away. Why am I the only one that remembers them?
I realized then that this family I was with is a different family. It's smaller than the one I have right now, and no one is missing, no one is dead. In this life, in this dream, some of my current family members are not part of this family.
The next thing I remember is that the party is over, I am still with my husband (or guide) and all of a sudden I am told by a neighbor that the owner of the house is coming home. (All of a sudden, it's not my house anymore) And I felt rushed. Embarrassed. The owner was coming home, and I just had a party, it was a mess! I started cleaning up.
As I was cleaning up, I was surprised to find that on the lower level of the house, critters just come and go, like they own the place. (there was a bright snake, a beautiful colorful lizard, and some furry possum like creature that went across the floor. I was busy being shocked, a bit scared, frozen and staring at the critters that I didn't realize the owner had already arrived and went straight to the upper level of the house. I wasn't able to see or meet him.
Next scene: Back to a familiar dream landscape: No more guide. I'm in a remote area with hills, my house, the wind is blowing, it's a warm day, I enjoy the breeze, I wake up.
My beliefs with dreams are a bit strange right now....if I want to remember a dream, I read Seth before I go to bed, and then I remember. If I don't read Seth before sleep, I don't remember my dreams. What an interesting creation I have going on right now with dream recall! Actually it's been going on for a while..... It's so weird, but it's what works for me right now. So I have to read Seth, then request bridge of AARONII dreams.... otherwise, for some reason, I believe I won't remember my dreams, then of course I don't!
Brian’s Dream: 5/27/06 AARONII Dream:
I'm in what appears to be a 1960's style kitchen complete with a red kitchen table on silver legs and I'm with...Phil Collins!!
I'm actually questioning (interviewing) him on the different songs of his career-My Favorites really. I'm asking him what was going through his head when writing "I Don't Care Anymore"? That song has to be the angriest break-up song ever! Phil says that it's in response to his divorce in 1979.
Next I asked about his favorite "slow" song from either the Genesis era or his solo stuff. That answer was a jumble of "Ripples", "Alone Tonight", Snowbound", etc. Then I asked him what his favorite Genesis song and or his solo career stuff, was and Phil says "ALL of Them"(good answer).
Now the dream morphed into an English Countryside and Phil is driving me in an open-top British style car. On the radio is the live version of "In The Cage"(3 sides live)and then I ask Phil what was it like singing my most FAVORITE Genesis song of All Time live: SUPPER'S READY" He looks at me...smiles...and says..........
That's when I woke up from this dream. Bummer! I wanted to hear his answer.
Steve’s Dream: Ok gang you asked for it,
You guys have got me in the AARONII spirit now and last night I dutifully followed Ellen’s instruction to request an AARONII dream just before nodding off. But also for the record I cheated (you guys might try this one too) and gave myself a telepathic command "I want to release more melatonin". This was probably effective because I have never done this before and the first cut is the deepest, and I got so sleepy immediately I couldn’t hold my eyes open, as is melatonin’s effect. Melatonin has effects on a lot of other things too.
Well whether it was the melatonin or ye old AARONII, what followed was a type of dream I have never experienced.
Markey posted of his first AARONII dream
“It is important to note that, first of all I never remember as many details as I did with this dream. Also, I usually only remember one dream and sometime have a vague impression of a second, but this morning I REMEMBERED THREE dreams.”
My AARONII , melatonin dream was similar, in that I have rarely if ever and never since the brain clamp 1) remembered so many details of a dream 2) had a dream last so long3) 3)remain in the same room, in the same position with no action for the entire long dream 4)Have the entire dream be a conversation between me an someone, with no action, 5_Remember large segments of that conversation word for word. (My Subjective Awareness sure is chatty!)
So between the AARONII or the melatonin something was working!
The point of AARONII dreams is to get to the core of the SA [subjective awareness] right? To see what it is thinking. Well the dream of mine concerned me chatting with three young nurses who were caring for me in a hospital for my brain clamp problem and I sat in a chair and asked them a long series of questions about their lives like what kind of places did they like to go dancing at and they said to leather bars and my SA must be as judgmental as my conscious mind because I judged that sounded screwy.
I asked them if the Doctors thought my "disease" was non existent and of course they said yes and then I started asking them about the shift which I had just been reading about in Elias before going to sleep and they said they were aware of it and I told them by 2065 there would be no money etc and one nurse mentioned three of her favorite channeled essences and I guess this dream was about the future because I had never heard of them but am sorry I cant remember her three names so I can see if they come on the scene in the future. And then I started to tell them about Seth and Elias and Kris but I woke up here. And for literally the first time since I have been noticing my drams which extends back to January, nothing negative happened to me in the dream. I was having a ball.
So I guess the moral of that dream is that my SA knows about and has bought into and is as interested in the shift as I am, is as judgmental as I am, and is as obsessed as I am about my brain clamp, and also loves to chat as I do and likes to be in the company of young nurses as I would. So we are two peas in a pod and that proves the SA and the OA [objective awareness] are actually the same, as Kris said in a recent Mark post here.
So let’s hear it for AARONII, Rah Rah Sis Boom Bah!
