Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa'Ji)
Recorded in Toronto, Canada on May 14, 2006

KRIS: Now we trust that you are comfortable.

BRIAN: Quite comfortable, quite comfortable. Kris it is so good to talk to you!

KRIS: Indeed we thank you for your consideration.

BRIAN: Okay, we all ready there, Buddy?

KRIS: Now, before you begin with your questions, there are many areas that appear to be laden with confusion, misdirections and inner struggles of various degrees and kinds, many of which most likely end up giving you the feeling that somehow or other you are running faster nowhere. Or sometimes even that it would be best if you did not do anything, because most things that you undertake in any direction might end up adding to your struggles. And this may not necessarily be in all venues of life, but as far as understanding yourself as a person, as an individual. Does this make sense to you?

BRIAN: Oh, boy does it make sense! Wow, yes it does. Thank you so much.

KRIS: Now hopefully during this time we may share with you perhaps additional methods that can assist you in clearing up the fog that seems to surround you at times. This fog is self-generated. It has not been imposed upon you. It is not the result of external or other agencies, but your own self, especially in areas where you do not wish to make peace at times, for fear that that would upset the apple cart any more than it already is upset. Do you follow?

BRIAN: Oh yes, absolutely.

KRIS: Indeed. Now please feel free to begin your questions.

BRIAN: Wow, you know what? You were actually answering a few there. Actually, could we follow upon that line, before the first question?

KRIS: Indeed, as you wish.

BRIAN: Answer me that, then: why do I create such conflict with myself where I don't get really what I really want out of life?

KRIS: It may not be that you get what you do not want out of life, but that you get additional items mixed in the lot that are not to your liking. Though there are many items in there you have an affinity for and you thrive with, you have an affinity for contrast. You like -- on one level -- you have a liking for.....we are looking for a word....the disparity between opposites.

You have an affinity for feeling as if you are fighting an opponent and it gives you something to focus upon, much like a retired general may still continue to feel the need for an opponent, even when, all things said and done, there is no necessity for one. There is a NEED for one. And there is a difference between the two. Do you understand?

BRIAN: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

KRIS: So what we are on the one hand suggesting, is to stop focusing on what you do not want out of your life, and begin addressing what it is that you DO want.

BRIAN: A long-term relationship with a woman.

KRIS: Then in the first place, you must be comfortable with a long-term relationship with who you are and if you do not like the relationship you now have with yourself, do not expect any other individual to come along and change that for you. Do you understand?

BRIAN: Yeah, actually Kris, is that what could that have created the problem I had with a low libido from the years 2001 to 2005? Because I went through a really difficult period when I was with Cynthia and it really, really just shattered my entire psyche about myself.

KRIS: What is your age?

BRIAN: 43

KRIS: You are still very young, as least compared to ourself!

BRIAN: (Chuckling) Well, I haven't had nine cycles yet, no.

KRIS: There are any number of factors that can affect and cause problems in those areas, stress often being the major cause.

BRIAN: There was a lot of stress, yes.

KRIS: There are other stresses that add to the fire, but mostly a radical change in understanding whom and what you are will provide the most beneficial outcome.

BRIAN: Hmm. I like that. And how does one go about....I mean...I know you know intuitively....through talking with you, I've read Seth, Elias, yourself, Amiir, and I know what I have to do....you know where the confusion lies? In going about and getting it done.

KRIS: And we believe there is still no confusion at those levels. It is not difficult to envision and make use of materials provided by anyone along those lines. There are, however, resistances when you already anticipate the end results of the transformations and realize that transformations also initiate a giving up of old ways, old habits, old patterns.

BRIAN: And belief systems.

KRIS: Old belief systems, the old familiarities. And that can engender denial, even denial of denial. Human beings are extremely clever in those areas, even when all of the evidence is clearly presented, it can still be denied, because you can take a horse to water, but you cannot force it to drink.

BRIAN: No. Is there any herbal, natural cures for the low libido at times, are there any herbal cures? FOR that?

KRIS: There are indeed that can be most beneficial and without harmful side effects.

BRIAN: Exactly.

KRIS: There are several herbs. One is called Damiana Aphrodisiaca. This is one of the few herbs, apart from the green stuff, that you can also ingest by smoking. It is also available in tinctures, in tea form, and in capsules.

BRIAN: So, Damiana Aphrodisiaca.

KRIS: Indeed. It is often found as a compound in men's virility formulas. Another extremely useful broad spectrum herb is called Maca. M-A-C-A. It is from Peru.

BRIAN: And these can all be gotten from an herbalist or a --?

KRIS: Indeed. Maca is not only for low libido, but is an overall, powerful tonic and system regenerator. We highly recommend use of this.

BRIAN: Oh, definitely, definitely. Thank you so much. Hey, Kris, can I ask you something? Being self... oh what's the word I'm looking for? ...I lied to myself during the relationship with Cynthia. It was so powerful and I really realized it: if you're not honest with yourself you can create such stress, and such a lie to yourself that it really does affect everything around you.

KRIS: Indeed, because if you are not honest with yourself, how can you be honest with another?

BRIAN: So why was that relationship, which was so...it was so powerful, and it was so magical in a lot of respects, but in other respects it was such a reflection of belief systems. Could you go into detail a little bit about why Cynthia came into my life?

KRIS: It is not very difficult to perceive. You have already given yourself the answer.

BRIAN: Self-deception.

KRIS: Without that relationship you would not have brought to your own attention many of the contrasts and the denials you had become clever at denying.

BRIAN: Yes!

KRIS: You enticed that relationship as a powerful need in your life. Cynthia gladly participated at the subjective level for her own reasons, of course, but for yourself you drew that relationship because of the outcomes. The outcomes were already apparent, but not seen. So you needed a catalyst. That is what human beings do. You create situations because the situations are the catalysts by which you can then observe objectively what you often deny in yourselves.

BRIAN: Wow. And also Kris, the expansion....you know, I got to admit -- from that relationship in 2004, Paul Helfrich turned me on to Elias, and then I got your stuff, and P'Taah, Bashar, and then my friend Joe, who channels Amiir, and through that relationship it was like this just powerful movement in me to go right back to where I've always begun, right back to the Seth material where I always felt comfortable --

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: -- and I expanded...just threefold!

KRIS: Indeed, as you have now seen, one does not need to depend solely on prune juice to get the movement going.

BRIAN: (Laughing) Oh, that's beautiful! Wow!

KRIS: When the mind becomes clear, the individual also becomes congruent. And that is one of your challenges. You are at times relishing your incongruencies.

BRIAN: Yeah, I do, don't I?

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: Mmhm.

KRIS: In THAT you are congruent.

BRIAN: How about the word "fear"? Fear of change...you know, fear of actually discovering who I am, what I am?

KRIS: Our perception is slightly different: not so much fear of discovering whom and what you are, as it might be fear of letting go of what you already know.

BRIAN: Yes!

KRIS: That can make a tangible difference in understanding what direction you wish to go and how you wish to go about your new business of being.

BRIAN: Would that also entail, like even my job? I've been in the same job for twenty-three years, the same vein, and it always seems that my bosses at these jobs, I have so much conflict with my boss at work -- and my boss in the band -- and I always feel like so subordinate and I want to be free of all these, of someone higher than me, telling me --

KRIS: Then, we have a suggestion along those lines --

BRIAN: Oh! Definitely, definitely.

KRIS: The idea is not to free yourself of the burdens of an authority over yourself, but that you learn to appreciate the authority that you are in your life. Those individuals only reflect back at you what you feel about your own self.

BRIAN: Yes! It does feel that way! Correct.

KRIS: So this is not their conspiracies towards undermining you as much as the need for you to awaken and embrace at least what they represent. Because if you embrace some of THOSE bosses, you might end up with a sore lip!

BRIAN: (Laughing) And don't forget, the other is you!

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: Indeed!

KRIS: Embrace what they represent in YOU and the changes will MAGICALLY make their appearance in your life.

BRIAN: Oh, wow.

KRIS: The situations, the conditions, will be transformed to meet your new perceptions.

BRIAN: Thank you. You know, a little experiment I did try a couple of months ago -- actually for the past maybe seven months I was really utilizing Balance and Harmony -- Sisters Balance and Harmony - every day, and actually, I noticed there was no conflict. Now, in the last maybe two months, once again I've slipped back into old patterns and I can see the conflicts arising, but when I really work quote unquote my "program" -- Balance, Harmony, Grace, Joy and Love -- I DO get a different result!

KRIS: Indeed, then continue incorporating those experiments into your every day well-being. Your entire physical life manifestation is a reflection of what is going on at those subjective levels, or inner fields of events. That is the only purpose for physical reality as you understand it. It is the means by which you can discern and gauge what you are doing in the utilization of your belief system. How you are manipulating energy in transforming it from one state to another. Does that make sense to you?

BRIAN: Oh, absolutely. Perfect sense.

KRIS: So it means, in other words, that you need -- what is the old expression?-- pick yourself up by the bootstraps.

BRIAN: Yes, action. Taking action would be a helpful thing for me.

KRIS: Indeed. And that is the way you move on. It may necessitate saying goodbye to old habits, old patterns, old thoughts and feelings, turning around and embracing the new ones.

BRIAN: Sounds delicious.

KRIS: Indeed. There is always a buffet awaiting you whichever direction you cast your gaze. But you have to cast your gaze in SOME direction. You can return to the old buffet table, and only see remnants and think life has short-changed you, whilst but two feet away there may indeed be a new table with a completely different, exotic, delicious buffet waiting to be eaten, but you have to look in THAT direction.

BRIAN: Well, I do feel like I'm in the middle of the ocean, after leaving one continent and heading towards another one.

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: And as you've said, look for the little islands, because they're the little gems on your journey to a new continent.

KRIS: Indeed. They are very much like buoys, letting you know that this is the direction you need to take.

BRIAN: It IS the direction I need to take. And also I loved the -- not the last International session -- the one before, where I read that you said the past events are so fluid and so liquid that you can actually overlap different intensities onto the ones that were hurtful to nullify their effects.

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: And that I like. I really like that! There's no really set order as far as the past goes. It's all so interchangeable.

KRIS: Indeed, and have you tried experimenting with such notions?

BRIAN: Yeah, I have. In the beginning stages right after I read that session of looking at -- well, especially the relationship with Cynthia -- I looked at it like how can I change this and smooth it so it will be more -- so there wasn't so much of the trauma from it. Which was really my trauma, because I created it.

KRIS: If you care to, perhaps we can be of assistance in that play?

BRIAN: Oh, could you?

KRIS: Indeed!

BRIAN: Thank you.

KRIS: All you have to do is make certain you are seated comfortably --

BRIAN: Yes, I am!

KRIS: That the seat belt is on --

BRIAN: Mmhm.

KRIS: And take a deep breath, exhale, releasing all tensions and as you keep gently, deeply breathing this way, you focus more and more upon the sound of our voice, connecting yourself deeply within that voice, relaxing the body, allowing the throat to be nourished and healed [Brian has a sore throat and his voice is very raspy during the session], and allowing your mind to be cleared of all stresses, of all disturbances, much like rain is cleared from the windshield with each passing of the windshield wipers.

The mind is clear, and as you keep focusing upon the sound of our voice and relaxing deeply into it, you are entering a very large screen cinema and you are taking your seat in a very special chair, a chair that is on tracks, like a small train. And as you sit in this chair, you may notice that no chair has ever been as comfortable and inviting as this one.

And the sound of our voice keeps you in a beautifully relaxed state, clear of mind and you see before you the large screen, and upon this screen you will be able to play various portions of the life of Brian. And upon this screen you may see in the very middle, a projection of a portion of your life that you desire to be there. And it does not take the entire screen, it is in the middle. It consumes about one-fifth of the screen in the middle. Would you care to describe what small movie is playing in that area of the screen?

BRIAN: Hmmm....there are so many going through my mind.

KRIS: Just focus on one that is on the screen.

BRIAN: "Harold and Maude."

KRIS: Indeed, then. Watching that movie of your life, how does it make you feel?

BRIAN: Great. What a glorious, glorious life I've had. A beautiful life.

KRIS: And now, in the upper right hand corner of the screen, another small film is projecting up there, from another part of your life, another empowering event. It could be about ANY aspect of your existence. Do you see that?

BRIAN: Yeah-h-h.

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: For some reason the movie "Patton" -- when you were talking about a general -- the movie "Patton."

KRIS: Indeed. How does that make you feel?

BRIAN: Like a warrior. Unstoppable.

KRIS: Indeed, it gives you a feeling of strength.

BRIAN: Strength.

KRIS: Indeed. Now, on the lower right hand corner, there is another part of your life being projected on the screen, some events and conditions of Brian's life that also give you positive feedback looking at.

BRIAN: Childhood.

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: Childhood. Loved my childhood.

KRIS: And now, on the upper left hand corner of the screen, pretend that you can see a portion of your life, a part of your life that may have been LESS comfortable for you. It could have been about employment --

BRIAN: Yep, I was thinking of that.

KRIS: Relationship...

BRIAN: I was thinking of that.

KRIS: Choose one and focus it up there.

BRIAN: (Pause) Focused.

KRIS: And how does that one in particular make you feel?

BRIAN: Mmmm....Turmoil. Little bits of tension.

KRIS: Indeed. Now, in the lower left hand corner, choose a particularly cherished experience of your life and project it there.

BRIAN: When I was out on Tinicum Island with Judy, for a whole afternoon.

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: That was magical. And another -- could we have another cherished moment? -- getting to run a Conrail freight train all the way out to Harrisburg. That was a blast!

KRIS: Indeed. Now, you are in this magical, comfortable chair.

BRIAN: Yes.

KRIS: And to get a better outlook on the entire screen with all the five movies playing, you can ask the chair to move closer to the screen. How does that make you feel?

BRIAN: Empowered!

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: I feel powerful.

KRIS: And just for experimentation's sake, you can move the chair much further back, so that the entire screen looks more in focus.

BRIAN: It looks like my entire life.

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: Up to this point.

KRIS: And now, you can move the chair even FURTHER back, W-A-A-Y back! So that the screen looks like it is far away.

BRIAN: It'll be looking at a before-birth.

KRIS: Indeed. Now move the chair back to its original position. The screen too, with all of its five mini-films playing, is magical.

BRIAN: Yes.

KRIS: As is the nature of the imagination.

BRIAN: Oy!

KRIS: And here we are going to ask you to take one of the four empowering situations -- one of them -- and switch it with the one that is in the upper left hand corner, that might be more problematic.

BRIAN: That feels better!......Yeah.

KRIS: How does your body react?

BRIAN: Calmly. Centered.

KRIS: Indeed. Now you are going to discover another magical power of that large screen. Just as you were able to move your chair closer or farther away, each of the mini-movies on its own, can be moved further away, or closer. We are going to ask you to pretend that the new position you have given to the less empowering situation can be moved further away, deeper into the screen. And at the same time, the other four can be made to move closer to you, making them bigger. And how does that make you feel?

BRIAN: Larger. It's almost like seeing four movies, perfectly in a square, perfectly even with each other, and the fifth one is completely out of the picture.

KRIS: Indeed. Now we are going to ask you, even if you do not understand or know exactly how it is to be done, pretend that YOU have even more magical power than your chair or the movie screen, and that one of your magical powers is to draw from those four empowering mini-movies, the very essence of their strength, their power, their force, their wisdom and you can magically direct that energy into the one other movie that is almost obliterated from view, but still exists, and it saturates THAT mini-movie.

BRIAN: I'm saturated with love.....Mmhm....That's what I'm feeling....like taking all the power from the four and focusing it right on that, filling it up with love, because it was a part of me.

KRIS: Indeed, and even though it is not obliterated, it is no longer necessarily part of something you focus on.

BRIAN: No, and I don't feel the trauma from it any more, either.

KRIS: And, somehow or other, even its innate wisdom -- because there WAS a wisdom in you creating it -- is still relevant. It can be shared with the wisdom and loving energies of all the others. But it is no longer needed as an object of focus.

BRIAN: Even though it's not influencing anymore.

KRIS: Indeed, and as you keep staying connected with the sound of our voice, you can take a deep breath, you leave that magical chair, you walk out of the theater, you close the lights and you come back to yourself, open your eyes, and breathe naturally.

BRIAN: Wow. What a great film!

KRIS: Indeed. We hope that you understood the humor in that "Life of Brian."

BRIAN: Oh, yes, absolutely! That's why I chuckled, because it's Monty Python -- "The Life of Brian"!

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: Amazing! Hey, you know what my seat was? An engineer's seat inside an E-44 Electric! Which aren't around anymore by the way. Which was actually a question that I asked you at the International session, Kris, you know, in my imagination -- certain aspects of the old Penn Central Railroad, which is no longer around, and all these electrics, in my mind's eye -- I see them as powerful as when I actually witnessed them as a child. And when I disengage from here, will I be able to actually view these things?

KRIS: You can actually be part of their experience.

BRIAN: Oh, really!?

KRIS: As you were once.

BRIAN: As I was once! Exactly!

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: Oh, so you can feel the feeling of them going by, and the sounds and the feel...

KRIS: You are attracted to them for a variety of reasons.

BRIAN: Yeah, why am I? Why the electrics? Why that form of -- those GG -1's and the E -44's? -- and they hold -- you know the electrification of the P-RR holds such a heavy, heavy energy within me! Why?

KRIS: There are two focuses, one which was a conductor on an old steam engine in England where the Industrial Revolution took its birth. And in your neck of the woods, there is another focus, now passed away who ran the engines.

BRIAN: Ran the electrics! Was it somebody I knew? Because I knew a lot of engineers growing up.

KRIS: We believe you may have been in touch with such an individual, but to be one hundred percent accurate, we cannot provide you that information. It is not --

BRIAN: You can or can't?

KRIS: We cannot.

BRIAN: You cannot. I was thinking of John Eastburn. Big John. And John Cunningham. I knew these guys when I was very little. In fact they used to let me run the electrics when I was like eleven years old.

KRIS: We do believe that you have encountered that focus.

BRIAN: Yes, I have a funny feeling...and you know also, why you say that.... is when I was young, I knew, when I go out on the railroad, at a very young age, growing up in Media -- as you say, my neck of the woods -- I used to have an understanding of it at a young age, that I never knew where it came from, I just KNEW more knowledge at a young age than I ever thought. And my father, who turned me on to the Seth stuff, said, "Brian you're a seeker, you know that there's more than meets the eye in this reality."

KRIS: Now it is for you to do something WITH that information.

BRIAN: Yes! Live a magical life.

KRIS: Indeed and a magical life does NOT mean that one is suddenly no longer using their noggin.

BRIAN: Right.

KRIS: A magical life actually requires even more use of that gray matter that you call a brain. Though some people would like it to mean that you no longer have to use your critical faculties -- you simply act as a dumb individual and everything comes to you -- on the contrary, the more you exercise that gray mass between your ears as something other than to stuff the cranial cavity, you expand your awareness, you develop that higher intellect which is a balanced utilization of intuitions, the intellect, the rational mind, the imagination, the logical mind, and your creative abilities.

BRIAN: Yes...yes. Kris my talent for music, as a guitar player -- and I know I'm actually quite gifted at this -- being a stage musician, I've written five pieces for the classical guitar. I would really like to take my talent to another level, and I feel I could...that age doesn't matter...that I have the gift actually to...

KRIS: You are slightly older than American Idol would like.

BRIAN: (Laughing) This is true!

KRIS: And you might be in conflict with Simon!

BRIAN: Yeah! (Laughing)

KRIS: However, even though you might not specifically understand all the mechanics, there is definitely something to be said for having a goal. And you can ask the Universe to cooperate with you to start fulfilling that dream and desire. This works in two ways: you do what is necessary to follow and pursue your impulse in that direction, expecting that the Universe will also do its part to bring fulfillment to that desired goal. This is more charged than it appears. It is not only a matter of clicking your heels three times, but maybe FOUR times.

BRIAN: Ha!

KRIS: It does require that when the Universe communicates with impulses, intuitions and impressions that you act upon it.

BRIAN: Oh, you know what was coming to my mind? My father actually wrote a Christmas song called "Kris Kringle," that's always been in my mind to want to finish this thing, and it's up there with the great songs of Christmas that have actually sold. And I keep thinking what a gift he gave. All I'd have to do is execute it, finish it off and find some way to market it.

KRIS: Indeed and why do you not do that?

BRIAN: You know what it is? I have a lazy streak in me and it's also fear of success! Can you believe it, Kris? I actually have fear of success. You know, I'm talking to you about [how] I really want the woman of my dreams, and yet, I'm scared to make the first step...I know I can do it. I know I have so much power that I actually COULD accomplish it, that it like, locks me up. I want to get it done, though, I really do.

KRIS: There is another aspect to fear of success: that is fear of failure.

BRIAN: Exactly. Fear of failure. But I can't be run by fear. I don't want to be run by fear.

KRIS: It is natural to experience fear in many degrees, but it does not mean that fear has to rule you. You may be aware of it, just like somebody may be fearful of swimming, but they may eventually have to go into the water.

BRIAN: So like you said, dip my toe in that little pool.

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: Dip the toe and see how far...hey, you know, I really have nothing to fear but the fear itself?

KRIS: That is correct.

BRIAN: Just like the old saying: nothing to fear but fear itself. Because if I just do it, and know that the Universe is behind me 110%, I can do anything I want in this lifetime.

KRIS: It is one thing to talk the talk, it is another to actually walk the walk.

BRIAN: Yes, I've heard this before.

KRIS: And it would do you a disservice to accept mediocrity.

BRIAN: Thank you. I agree. Yes, it would do me a disservice to accept mediocrity. Absolutely.

KRIS: This means then that if you wish to move in your areas of desire then you must take the steps necessary to cross whatever bridges appear to exist between you and your intended goal.

BRIAN: Yes.

KRIS: And you will discover that once you begin the trek, then usually what may have appeared as discouraging fears eventually melt away. They were little but the product of your imagination.

BRIAN: Hey, Kris, can I use the movie theater technique to get this done? Because as you were speaking, I was visualizing sitting in my engineer's seat in the movie theater and actually seeing these things getting done.

KRIS: Yes you may! Do so with fun --

BRIAN: With fun!

KRIS: And then, once you start putting these things into motion, you must act upon the invites when they show up.

BRIAN: Yes! You know I just got invited to do studio work for a rap studio, which I've accepted, and you know, I agree with you on one thing, I do have the contacts and the people to turn to, to aid me in this endeavor and it's just a matter of reaching out and saying, "Hey, I've got an idea. Would you like to help?"

KRIS: Indeed and this may assist you in resolving your procrastination.

BRIAN: Right! Exactly!

KRIS: And the way to do that is to not try to take on the whole world all at once.

BRIAN: Incrementally.

KRIS: You do so with one small item at a time and before you know it -- indeed! -- You have already traveled many miles.

BRIAN: Oh, that is so great. That is so great! Hey, you gave me the name El-Don, whereas Elias and Amiir gave me Enzo, but I resonate so well with El-Don, in fact, I use it when I'm in the shower as one of my chants, where I go (singing) EL-DON! And I resonate! Who was El-Don? What is the history behind this?

KRIS: There are threads with this energy personality with older civilizations. The individuality we refer to loosely as El-Don was an instigator and motivator.

BRIAN: Ha!

KRIS: An individual who would easily -- what is the expression? --

BRIAN: Black sheep? Created trouble?

KRIS: Not necessarily, but he would not ever ask another to do something he could not do himself.

BRIAN: Oh! A man's man.

KRIS: Indeed. This individual (pause), we would actually have to say these individuals, because there is more than one --

BRIAN: Right, more Essences.

KRIS: Yes, but these individuals were present in at least three different stages of civilizations, all of which have almost disappeared. The only one that still exists is the remnants of the Chinese culture you now know. Before the present Ice Age - or the last Ice Age -- the Chinese culture was even more advanced than it is today. The plow, for instance, was invented by the ancient Chinese thousands of years before the Europeans discovered it. There is a specific plow, the name of which escapes us.

BRIAN: John Deere? (Chuckling)

KRIS: Many inventions by the Chinese were merely rediscoveries of their own ancestors' works. Many of which have been destroyed by invading hordes and armies and invaders. And there are many remnants of many other cultures, great advanced inventions, many of which still lie buried in museum vaults, labeled as "unknown" because they are often instruments which are not supposed to exist within those times.

BRIAN: Oh, so they keep them from the masses.

KRIS: Indeed. They are often labeled as religious artifacts because they do not know what they are about. And "religious artifacts' is the usual label which says, "We have no clue."

BRIAN: Right. You know, Kris, when you were talking about that, I was thinking my very personal family history -- not with the Ferrell family, but with my own, with Brian, as El-Don? -- I go back billions and billions of years, my family history. Of just myself.

KRIS: That is a means for you to understand -- as well as for others to understand -- that you will be found in all times and spaces, due to the nature of consciousness. And as an expression of consciousness and as an Expression of Essence you always ARE, regardless of the form, the historical times, the geographical areas, even the various dimensions that you are found in. Does that make sense?

BRIAN: Yes it does. How many cycles have I had?

KRIS: (Pause)

BRIAN: The number three hits me.

KRIS: We would say that you are in your third cycle.

BRIAN: In my third, yes. That's what I felt. Pretty old, huh? (Chuckles)

KRIS: And yet by some other standards, you are but a pup!

BRIAN: Ah! You used my word! (Laughing) That's the word I always use: "Just a pup!" Hey thank you for picking that up! Just a pup. There is no age, never will be. It's all the spacious moment.

KRIS: The more you find pleasure, fun, creativity, and enjoy your creaturehood within all of the representations of the spacious moment, the more you can be who you are.

BRIAN: Yes. Exactly. Wow, Kris, this has been so, so good! Thank you, thank you so much!

KRIS: Please continue.

BRIAN: Okay. Wow, you covered a lot of stuff with me. Let's see, you already told me about the acid reflux -- actually Serge did -- cured my left knee by using the Sisters.....how about the arches of my feet? Just one quick medical thing: the arches of my feet always seem to bother me. Anything I can do for that? Is that a balance thing?

KRIS: Orthotics.

BRIAN: Excuse?

KRIS: Orthotics.

BRIAN: Ah, orthotics. Okay.

KRIS: You have, we believe, the right leg slightly shorter than the left.

BRIAN: Mmhm.

KRIS: This will create a small physical imbalance. The body trying to create a balancing effect. The orthotics will help correct this.

BRIAN: Okay. And my kundalini -- Ellen was talking to me about that -- because we were going back to the low libido problem -- she said my kundalini....you know for the last couple of years I've felt a split between my body and my mind....whereas you said there was a lot of stress going on, but I really....she mentioned the kundalini. Could you go into that just for a couple of seconds?

KRIS: In very basic terms, the kundalini is the life force -- consciousness -- from which you derive your being at that physical level. It is YOUR energy. It is that link to Essence. Now, there is also within you a need for grounding.

BRIAN: Yes!

KRIS: Which is one other energetic reason why there is low libido. We recommend that, apart from everything else discussed, to get your emotional feeling life on a more even keel, that you investigate the possibility of acupuncture. At least four or five sessions that deal specifically with the meridians for BALANCING and GROUNDING your physical being, especially that -- keep this in mind -- that whatever reputable acupuncturist you go to -- that he or she also work on the points at the very curve of the heel, before it goes under towards the sole of the feet, the ball of the foot. Do you understand?

BRIAN: Right! The curve of the heel, before it goes under toward the ball.

KRIS: Yes. There is a point of each that will also work on awakening the unconscious which will ground you.

BRIAN: Oh, good. Good, good.

KRIS: It is not often known by acupuncturists. Some may have to look up in their reference manuals, but the point is there.

BRIAN: Thank you so much. And you also said get the Maca pill and Dimeema Aphrodisia --

KRIS: The herb is called "Damiana."

BRIAN: Damiana, okay.

KRIS: And the other one is called "Maca."

BRIAN: Okay, and they will help clear it. But definitely get the acupuncture, right?

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: Okay. Just go four or five sessions?

KRIS: Indeed. That should be more than sufficient.

BRIAN: Excellent and what about yoga? Why do I hear so much about yoga?

KRIS: Now, before we continue into that, with that work with the acupuncture point at the heels, there needs to be a needle in the very crown top of the head, right in the center of the head.

BRIAN: At the top of my head?

KRIS: Indeed.

BRIAN: Okay.

KRIS: Now, yoga IS an excellent means to cultivate a gentle approach in maintaining the body. If you have never done any yoga, you will need to start very gently, with a qualified yoga instructor. The point is for body purposes and grounding the relationship between body and mind, from that perspective. And it will work very nicely. It will also help alleviate much of the muscular tension stresses you undergo.

BRIAN: Yeah, I do, in the neck and the back.

KRIS: But this must be started in a GENTLE manner.

BRIAN: Okay, excellent. Well, my friend, all my questions for now are totally answered. Thank you so much, Kris!

KRIS: Indeed then. We thank you again for your gentle consideration, and we return Joseph to you now.

BRIAN: Okay, thank you Sir.

(Session ends.)