Kris Chronicles
Channeled by Serge J. Grandbois and Transcribed by Ellen Gilbert (Kwaa'Ji)
Recorded in Castaic, California on February 12, 2006

Roll call: Serge (Joseph), Mark (Philip), Paul (Janaki), Jo (Rosalie), Ellen (Kwaa’Ji), and Alan (Regoronn).

[ELLEN’S NOTE: This was a surprise pop-in by Kris Sunday evening. We were sitting comfortably in the Helfrich’s living room. We had just had some delicious Chinese take-out and were sipping wine, enjoying each other’s company, stimulating conversation, and basking in the warm afterglow of a wonderful, most successful two-day experience, the “Discover Your Passionate Self” workshop. We had also enjoyed an intimate walk with Kris through a nearby park just preceding our dinner, so we certainly weren’t expecting any more channeling performances after such an intense and certainly fulfilling day.

[Alan brought up the topic of some new experimentation being done with sound propulsion: using sound to move vehicles or other machinery. A moment or two later, Serge said that Alan’s words had caused a sudden huge up-rush of energy for him, and he gestured towards his midsection, drawing his hand upwards. The next thing I knew, Mark was running for the recorder, Serge was attaching his microphone to his shirt, and Kris was once again joining us.]

KRIS: Indeed, it looks like we are privileged once again with your lovely presences!

(Laughter)

PAUL: You can’t get rid of us!

KRIS: We would not want to, even if we tried! (Pause) The idea that sound can be utilized to produce energy is well worth investigation. Now, your concept of sound as in – you hear sound from this voice box as it reverberates against your eardrum and inner ears, etc. – is only ONE SMALL FACET of that phenomenon.

Light is also another kind of sound, but it does not produce the same effects as, say, this voice box. But light emits sound, and it is that energy – because sound is energy – that energy can be utilized and transferred through a process that is being uncovered, but under the guise of light only, which is not a problem. But eventually your sciences will uncover this new/ancient science again, as it was utilized many thousands of years ago.

MARK: Is it that light gives off sound, or that light is a by-product of sound?¹

ALAN: It’s all vibration. Just different frequencies.

KRIS: Both of them are the product of what we call “soundlets”² – simply different perspectives on the source. For instance, there are now watches that use photonic energy to generate thousands of oscillations per second to create or generate sufficient energy to keep the watch ticking. Now that process is encapsulated in a very small physical area through rings that reverberate as a result of photonic energy reaching those chambers.

Imagine then, something that is barely one-eighth to one-quarter inch in diameter suddenly the size of football fields that can generate sufficient energy to feed thousands of people’s homes. And it can be underground, because those oscillations do not produce reverberations the way a jackhammer might, because all of the sound energy is then focused towards unique chambers through which that energy is transformed into consumables. Does that make sense to you?

ALAN: Are you speaking in a way of harmonics?

KRIS: In a similar manner, but slightly different as well. Harmonics can also be tapped, but your scientists do not know how to tap into it. When your sciences can tap into this, then enormous amounts of energy can again be extrapolated through tapping into the harmonics of your own planet as it is harmoniously balanced in celestial symphonies between your planet and its satellite, other planets and their satellites, etc., but that is for another age, not one you will see in your lifetimes.

It has been done³ before and has caused problems because of misuse of that energy by hungry and greedy warmongers. As your species learn, you recognize that certain adventures cannot be gotten into until such a time as, species-wise, you learn to absorb and properly situate your own tendencies toward aggression, because you have let them lead and consume you for a very long time without properly understanding those energies⁴. Does that make sense as well?

(Yes)

So there is a specific kind of scale that your species utilizes to gauge where the species itself is at with those responses. And until you can learn collectively to investigate other avenues to work out your differences than bombing your neighbors the minute the neighbor opens its mouth – even before you hear what is coming out – none of such devices and implementations can be admitted into general consciousness. Does that make sense?

(Yes)

It is possible, for one individual – or any individual – to stand where they are, say in an open field, and to allow their consciousness to tap deep into the Earth as if they were plunging a rod of awareness into the core through the mantle of the planet, getting in touch with all of the life-forms that root into the soil, for instance. Tapping into the awareness of tree lives and understanding the processes involved in transforming the energy sucked up from the roots all over the planet at any given time, sucked up the trunks and transformed into photosynthesis and released into the atmosphere.

Now THAT is an atomic generator if ever there was one! And it does NOT harm the environment or individuals, but enhances and permits life. If your species were to become so foolish as to consume all of the trees on your planet, your species would die within ten years. Does that also make sense?

MARK: Why does it feel like we’ll be dead in twenty? (Laughs)

KRIS: Not necessarily so. At the same time, never underestimate the potential for human consciousness to make recognition and retribution along those lines. Rectifications, corrections – to nudge itself back with the understandings of the relationships of one life-form to another. The main problem is that human species has...(pause)...UNFELT itself from its relationship with nature. Can we say that word? Do you understand its meaning?

PAUL: A dissociation.

KRIS: It has UNFELT itself.

ELLEN: Emotional disaffection.

KRIS: Indeed! It thought, in this line of experimentation, that if it divorced itself and villainized nature that somehow or other it might come out of the experience somehow or other magnificently transformed, only to begin to realize that it CAN do so, but to its utter detriment and destruction. Imagine a human being thinking that there is an object in its chest that keeps thumping away and disturbing its thoughts!

ELLEN: (With a shuddery laugh) Oh, god!

KRIS: Thus, perhaps the solution is to REMOVE that which causes thumping! So you can understand the powerful dilemma that presents itself to consciousness at all levels when such collective thinking starts snowballing – because it SEEMS like a logical idea! – Whilst in truth it is truly only experimental and quite cockamamie at that! This is not to denigrate the potential for experimentation, but when experimentation is done without consideration then you have problems.

And though we are well aware that there are individuals that would SCREAM FROM THE ROOFTOPS THAT WE ARE TRAMPLING SACRED GROUND, such as, “But everything is fine and pretty as it is!” That is only at another layer of consciousness, not the physical reality. In your physical reality as it is, you know very well that your ass will be cooked if you do not get off the stove!

(Group chuckles)

PAUL: That’s right!

KRIS: So we invite those who wish to stay on the stove, to jack up the heat!

ELLEN: (Laughing)

KRIS: It will get it over and done with!

ELLEN: Ha ha ha! Let’s nip it in the bud!

PAUL: Kris, can I ask a question?

KRIS: Indeed, please feel free! We did not mean to barge in or interrupt your lovely discussion, but the topic itself was far too tempting!

ELLEN: Oh, we love it, we LOVE it!

PAUL: You triggered some questions from earlier conversations that are coming back to me now. Two things. First one: in this period hundreds of millions of years ago where our species developed a soundlet technology that was then misused by what you characterized as warmongers, and from what you said earlier, Venus, Mars, other planets, moons were destroyed, have been obliterated. My question is, at that time....first of all I have to say it was really depressing the first time you shared that lineage, or that history, with me, thinking how far we had come so long ago, to have destroyed it all and then...it just starts building up again, hundreds of millions of years later! (Laughs)

(Sympathetic laughter among all of us)

I mean, millions of years go by, which I know is just a blink of the eye of Essence, but from a focus perspective – a lot of work! Anyway, the first question is: In that social structure – the warmongers – were they a different faction than those that developed this technology? I mean, those that developed this technology didn’t do so with this malicious intent in mind; was it hijacked?

KRIS: You have similar phenomenon in this very day and age…

PAUL: Yeah.

KRIS: …where an individual quite by lovely accident creates or discovers a device that is suddenly recognized by the military as containing potential for modification to then use against sometimes its very own people. Look at Tazer technology, which is now being considered in conjunction with microwave technology, used against crowds to contain them.

ALAN: Yes.

(Shocked murmurs)

KRIS: Do you seriously believe that a fanatical individual will hold the trigger ONLY for the two seconds it needs? Or they may wish to see what another two or three or four seconds feels like.

ALAN: That’s microwave for people.

KRIS: Indeed!

ELLEN: Oh, god.

PAUL: So, another example of that would be Al-Qaeda and, let’s just say Osama Bin Laden – if they were to get control of a nuclear submarine – a Pakistani nuclear submarine, which contains twenty-one thermodynamic missile systems – they would not hesitate to use them on their perceived enemy.

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL: So that is a faction then, that is not able, cognitively – just from our stages of focus development – to invent the technology and maintain it and yet, politically they are able to get their hands on it, so back to this horrific part of our history – hundreds of millions of years ago – so it was something similar to that happened then?

KRIS: Indeed, and though we would be the last to say history repeats itself, there are repetitions that occur in the great halls of your psyches. These ancient footsteps still echo down the corridors of consciousness because there are still many, many in your world that consider such experiments and experiences still valuable as methods to continue exploring; so the collective CAN give that permission. But again, do not underestimate the powers of consciousness, collective and singular, to make adjustments and to edit situations.

PAUL: You said that before, which leads to my second question in this area, and it’s more of a sociological, anthropological, paleontological question: we consider ourselves species-wide as homo sapiens; we have some fossil evidence of Cro-Magnon lineages, and Neanderthal lineages, which are considered human, but are different. These species of three hundred million, five hundred million years ago – the species of that time – would they be considered homo sapiens, or just a species question –

KRIS: That is the terminology given to your species by your scientists in accordance with the Latin cataloguing principles to situate you on the family tree from monkey to man.

PAUL: Right.

KRIS: If we had to change that, we would call YOUR species, Uguur. U, G double U, R. UGUUR (pronounced OO-GOOR) – coming from a branch of consciousness quite removed from monkeys of any kind, but a species exploring the human, or the potential of human form, to work with, to literally manipulate consciousness through the auspices of your ego construction. A worthwhile, valid, and – we would even say – (pause) – perhaps it may sound to you as a strange terminology, but indeed a very KNIGHTLY endeavor. Like...

ELLEN: Chivalrous?

KRIS: Indeed! Very chivalrous in the method in which YOU charge forth and enable experiences to COME FORTH from the very heart of your desire as Essence. So then, we would refer to you as Uguur.

PAUL: And this goes back hundreds of millions of years?

KRIS: Indeed. That lineage has never been broken.

[Mark raises his hand and waives it in Kris’ direction.]

PAUL: Mark’s got a question.

KRIS: Indeed.

MARK: Paul and I have had this debate – evolution – and obviously, we do not come from monkeys, but you and I have had conversations about how the first species of any species manifests itself on the planet. I just wanted to confirm how the first Uguur showed up. Did it evolve from something else physical, or did it manifest itself, just…?

PAUL: Did it blink in in a creationist blinking…?

ALAN: Dreamed into reality.

ELLEN: Yeah, dreamed into reality, yeah. (Alan and I are recalling our Seth!)

KRIS: The Uguur were always the Uguur. They may not have had your playing field to play with, but a much vaster field where very few limitations and physics might have hampered or even dampened their creative potential. (Kris’ voice takes on a slow, soft, gentle, and deliberate cadence) But – if we can use the term – one “day” they recognized that their own intent led them to the realization that their reality was far larger than they ever could possibly conceive of and THAT in itself led to untold possibilities.

Those untold possibilities revealed themselves as opportunities to step through various thresholds. And we are simplifying words and descriptions. These possibilities were forever present to their awareness, but not considered as possibilities until they noticed the possibilities themselves. And just as you would walk through a gentle wall of falling water, so did they notice that they could walk right into and through those things they could consider ONLY as possibilities without previously considering that the possibilities could themselves be realities.

This generated untold, un-measurable quantities of excitement, of accelerations; an unleashing of vitality in such a manner that even solar systems and galaxies were created from that moment. The Uguur are what you consider the ‘All That Is’. Such potential was discovered and unleashed that a single tear can contain millions of galaxies. And thus the realities that YOU know were magically formed by unbelievable desire and potential.

ELLEN: When you said the ‘All That Is’ that we know, you’re talking about the ‘All That Is’ of physical reality?

KRIS: We are speaking of ‘All That Is’s’.

MARK: (Chuckling)

ELLEN: (Laughing) ‘All The Is’s’ that Is’s!

PAUL: You’re also talking about what you’ve described as the grid of perception?⁵

KRIS: Once those potentials and possibilities were discovered to be realities in themselves, they fit into what CAN be compared to a grid of perception, but our description of such a grid would be as inadequate as our description of the Uguur.

MARK: The physical reality as we know it, the world as we know it, didn’t exist before the Uguur.

KRIS: But the Uguur ALWAYS exist; so you always exist. As potential your realities may not have been realized but they always exist.

MARK: But as the theory of evolution goes, the Earth existed many, many millions of years before mankind, but – as what you’re saying, is that it did not – is that mankind –

PAUL: I don’t think he’s saying that.

MARK: That’s why I’m asking.

PAUL: So let me try to frame a question there. Just from our egoic…

KRIS: (Interrupting) …And before you continue, do understand that yet in your literatures there is no such information. Joseph’s mind is in a very, very deep state and it took all weekend to condition it to this state.

PAUL: I understand.⁶

KRIS: So please proceed.

PAUL: I just wanted to come at it from another angle. From the egoic perspective then, there is an order of play, in Framework 1 only terms. When we are talking about ‘All That Is’s’, that includes Frameworks Two, Three, Four, dot dot dot, Quadrant Two, Three, Four, etc.

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL: But, I’m – just from a Quadrant One perspective, Framework 1 perspective, there IS an order of play in terms of a physical – what we could call physios quality to this grid of perception, and it takes time – and from that an acceleration occurs that would be called bios, where a biological system comes in the order of play, and from that bios or biological, then a noos, or noetic condition emerges that results in focuses of essence being able to manifest only in physical in Framework 1. What I’m asking about is: Is this order of play accurate, or am I way off base, or…?

KRIS: There is definitely an accuracy and there are always specific steps and processes, stages and states, otherwise the very idea that you create – from the wonderful gifts of the Uguur – a conscious ego construction would be irrelevant and you would all be as insane as the most insane amongst you. Does that make some sense? You have to organize perceptions, just as the perceptions of Framework 1 are enabled through some of the perceptions of Framework Two and up.

The potentials of Quadrant One are dependant upon the perceptions of Quadrant Two and Three and Four and Quadrant Four is a kind of catch-all, which would include the Uguur as core light. The question then must come to your mind: if the ‘All That Is’s’ come from the Uguur, where do the Uguur come from? And so on, and so forth. And though you might search for millions upon billions and trillions of years, you all find various nested births and processes because they all exist. The main point is that you recognize that your origins are infinite varieties and not from one singular source as modern religious and even biblical teachings impart.

PAUL: Right, right. Just one question at this point.

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL: Mark framed his question in the terms of the belief system of evolution, a linear thing, and I then asked this order of play which plays into that, but there’s a complimentary process going on which we could call “involution” – EVOLUTION/INVOLUTION – and I think that’s consistent with what you’re trying to communicate in terms of the fundamental, or primacy, of Uguur as ‘All That Is’s’ is always already as it then translates itself through these quadrant structures – this grid of perception – to manifest as Framework 1, so that it’s complimentary.

There are evolutionary processes in order of play, perhaps in one perspective there IS a monkey that turns into a homo sapiens, in our terms, HOWEVER, that is also – must be understood simultaneously with these involutionary processes throughout these quadrants as you said, are nested...and we’ve barely scratched the surface in understanding.⁷

KRIS: That is correct. Now we do not perceive “monkeylution”⁸ as the key to your understandings and you must understand that monkeylution is as much a myth –

PAUL: As Madame Blavatsky’s thesis, for instance.⁹

KRIS: Indeed.

ALAN: May we return for a moment to the original physics-based question?

PAUL: (Smiling and sitting back) Yeah, I’m done.

ELLEN: (Laughing, to Paul:) You’ve got as much as you can get!

PAUL: (Laughs) Yeah, that’s as much as I can get.¹⁰

ALAN: When we originally were speaking in terms of sound and light from our point of view, we think of those in terms of frequencies of vibration, in other words, visible light has a certain frequency in terms of millionths of a wavelength –

KRIS: Indeed.

ALAN: – and sound is twenty to twenty thousand cycles per second, it’s audible, and all these other frequency ranges are in between. And I’m struck by the concept that some physicists are talking about zero point energy, where you take everything down in a supposed vacuum to absolute zero, where all molecular energy would be stopped, yet there is still something going on. In other words, there is no true vacuum.

There is a potential at that point, and the physicist Mark Cummings has said to us in our groups before that his theory is that space itself is not a vacuum, but a plenum, it is a completely FULL state, and what happens from this completely full state of energy is that an imbalance appears and the imbalance is what leads to manifestation in our physical world. And I’m thinking that we would think of this “imbalance”....if there is an absolutely full state, and a flutter, an imbalance happens; then if it happens again, you set up a frequency and the only difference between frequencies is our conception of TIME – It’s fast or slow depending on our ability to perceive.

But....is there something about, for instance, the original concept of sound energy – which got all this discussion started – is there something fundamental to this idea of frequency being what manifests the potential into the experienced that is the nature of sound, light, and these other phenomena or are you suggesting that there’s something to sound, light, what have you, that’s completely FREE of our phenomenal experience of these things in terms of vibrations?

KRIS: (Pause) When units of consciousness – some of which we consider soundlets – blink – in the standard metaphysical terms as you have become accustomed to them – when they BLINK to appear simultaneously in a multitude of dimensions whilst appearing to disappear from as many dimensions simultaneously; you might not yet understand that they are ALSO in an ultra-rapid, just as fast, ROTATION. Thereby, you have double phenomena occurring. The blinking is not only a blinking, but a spinning. So they BLINK literally at ten times what you have possibly imagined before or even more so. That can be understood as a basic fundamental unit of light, which truly is a vibrational sound which can be tapped into to extrapolate unbelievable amounts of energy.

ALAN: But is this blinking only a matter of importance to us who must take time to understand things...? In other words, I guess the idea is, we have to take time to understand things…

KRIS: Indeed.

ALAN: …so rate of vibration makes sense to us. But, is this blinking, from your point of view where time is of lesser relevance, is this in fact blinking at all or is it something else entirely, and the only way we have to understand is…

KRIS: …Is in blinking. There is still an action – a raja – of unbelievable potential. To consider that ONE such soundlet can unleash the potential of a million of your suns is an understatement. And that energy CAN be cultivated, but it will NOT be given until your species understands its own aggressive tendencies and can deal with it in a mature adult-like fashion. Presently you are still caught between the stage of infancy, youth, and adolescence.

PAUL: That’s right.

KRIS: There are so few mature, global individuals as to be almost invisible. They are there however, and they are producing materials that can assist the other three stages to THINK, and use this stuffing between the ears. It is not only tofurkey.¹¹

ALAN: But on the level of environments where thought immediately gives rise to manifestation, and the thought, the energy, is the same thing – the conscious thought IS the energy that creates whatever –

KRIS: It is a form of energy, indeed.

ALAN: So it is only when it trickles down into our level that it gets separated out into things like laws of physics and space and time.

KRIS: Because you need to have such processes and examine them according to your present sciences. So it is also valid and most respectable. We have our own objections on many of these subjects, but overall there is a great deal of validity to the processes you utilize as they are necessary for your stage of development. You are utilizing the sciences as you know, very much in a similar stage as a young teenage boy playing with a chemistry set in his mother’s basement, occasionally blowing a few tables and vases. Does that make some sense to you?

ALAN: Is it fair to say that in your environment your every thought is literally playing with these energies at the levels that you’re describing?

KRIS: (Pause) A distinction has to be made: We are aware of the complete plethora of our thoughts; however, unlike your present perceptions concerning your thoughts, we are aware of their realities, and we are aware of our ability to control and harness that potential. We do not become schizophrenic in the processing of our thoughts, whilst you are still discovering this very subject matter. Your thoughts fascinate you. Our thoughts ALSO fascinate us, but because of their potential, not as an aberration or as an anomaly, but as for the very creative potential each concept in that atmosphere contains. We do not know if that makes any sense to you, but that is the answer we are sticking to!

(Laughter)

PAUL: That’s his story and he’s sticking to it!

KRIS: Indeed.

ALAN: Kris, I’m looking at maybe the relative terms of the power generated by the thought, on the idea that a thought at your level from our point of view is like nuclear fission – with its power and its potential – yet it’s not a problem from your end because you are in charge, in a way, of the reactions.

KRIS: Indeed, we will say that your ideas of nuclear power are, from our perspective, much like soda pop.

ELLEN: (Laughs) Oh, man!

MARK: Shake the can and it explodes.

KRIS: Not in that sense, but simply beautiful effervescence. Does that make sense?

ALAN: Yes.

KRIS: Indeed. (To Paul:) You had a question?

PAUL: Just...you used the phrase, “this technology is for a future time” – the soundlets, high-powered fusion thing, the rods going down into the mantle – “ will not be GIVEN…”

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL: …“until such time as the species hits a more adult stage of development.”

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL: So I’m thinking of Steve Lord’s question earlier today about that separation of subjective and objective, and when you make a comment like that it kind of plays into that fear of “Oh, there’s all this knowledge and ability that…”

ELLEN: “Somebody’s ‘controlling’ us.”

PAUL: …we’re just talking about it and...but it can’t be “given,” anyway.

KRIS: Indeed, because of the remembrances of your species’ ability to play with fire and get your fingers burned, individuals will not be born that can play with the notions and develop them until the collective is assured that it is sufficiently safe. Does that make sense?

ELLEN: Yes.

KRIS: In that way, it will not be “given”. When the time is recognized as ripe – by and for the collective – then individuals will take birth that will lead your sciences forward.

PAUL: So...so the “giving” is through a normal Framework 1, Quadrant One process…

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL: …of development from acorn to sapling to tree, psychologically they start at stage one, but they will develop and cognitively they will be able to make the connection, the “a-ha’s,” and develop the technology.

KRIS: Indeed, because your species is not stuck in Framework 1.

PAUL: Right. I understand that.

KRIS: It exists primordially in Framework Two, Three, Four and beyond. Framework 1 is ONE of the multitudes of sandboxes that you can play with, build sandcastles, and so on. Does that make some sense?

ALAN: Are there species who are actually at the level of being able to use these things? I think the answer would have to be: in some framework, our species DOES utilize them.

KRIS: Indeed! Very much so.

MARK: I have a huge dichotomy, because the Netjer¹² told me we keep repeating ourselves, we keep having the same cycles and then you told me that consciousness will never repeat the same experiment twice. And yet, we keep heading – in my perspective…

KRIS: That is correct.

MARK: …towards the same crap.

KRIS: But the dichotomy is not in the information…

MARK: No, it’s in me, I realize that.

KRIS: …because, even though your species may appear to go down the same road, it will eventually take a turn onto another road, create an entirely new history, but the same history is still present as a foundation to take lessons from and still, the same history repeats itself because you are utilizing old ideas, old concepts, old creations, and if your desires and stages of evolution are sufficiently developed, then you will create entirely new situations out of the old. Thus you operate on a multitude of levels all at once. Does that make sense?

MARK: Yeah, it does.

PAUL: And that’s clearer to me from our interactions over the last couple of years, and I just try to summarize it as I-I-I , just to get some levels and different I’s that all work in order to…

KRIS: You would indeed have to not only have horizontal “I’s”, but vertical…

PAUL: Vertical…

KRIS: …and then each “I” on the horizontal has to have a set of its own verticals…

PAUL: Sure.

KRIS: …and each “I” on the vertical would have to have its own set of horizontals!

PAUL: You go boy! (Chuckling) Yeah, yeah, I realize that.

KRIS: Thus you are infinite “I’s”; thus you are Uguur.

ELLEN: You guys, you make it so complicated…

PAUL: Well, I’m just trying t…

ELLEN: I know, I know…

PAUL: … to find the scale, trying to find the do, re, mi, fa, so, la, ti…

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL: …that all these symphonies come from, so when I talk about I-I-I¹³ – what he just said is all pregnantly implicit in that structure…

ELLEN: Yeah. (Laughs)

PAUL: …and then, yet it has to be explicit, too.

ELLEN: But still…

PAUL: But it’s not explicit...

ELLEN: Still...it amounts to...what is given or what is not given...is given or not given by OURSELVES to US.

KRIS: Indeed, the gifts that you give to yourselves are most precious. Each occasion of giving is indeed a miracle that you have not blown yourselves out of the water every five minutes.

MARK: Yes.

KRIS: And, if you take anything into your dreams tonight, try and remember the humble and certainly crude and incomplete descriptions of the Uguur. If you wish to engage mind-blowing dreams, then ask the deepest part of yourself to help you express a single molecule of the Uguur and share your dreams tomorrow.

PAUL: Will do.

KRIS: Now with that we will relinquish Joseph to your lovely selves, and may your dreams be simply beautiful.

ALL: Thank you very much, Kris.

[Discussion continued for awhile among the four of us after Kris bowed out. We spoke again of the origin of our species, how does this “blinking in” and “blinking out” occur, and how does it reconcile with the idea of developmental stages as in evolutionary theory. Kris came back once again to comment.]

KRIS: Now, you understand the word “blinking” because it gives you a certain reference and it does not offend your sense of integrity. Had other descriptions been used, your ego construction would have been so offended that you would have shut that down completely, because you still do not fully have the authentic understanding and the feeling and the knowledge. You have it in words only that your reality is not what you think it is. You think it is solid bedrock creation and yet, it is a dream.

We can now easily describe that you four are having a dream that seems to last a whole life long, and yet at another stage of awareness you will awaken and you will share that dream with your companions in complete amazement that you could have thought that it was real in that sense of the word. And yet from the dreamer’s perspective, the walls and the floors and the ceilings, the forms, objects and bodies that you see in this very dream right now where you are pretending to listen to our humble discarnate voice is REAL.

And that yet does not sink to the very core of your being because you are magically enmeshed in your own creation in the same way that the Uguur are enmeshed in their creations of ‘All That Is’; that ‘All That Is’ is enmeshed in the creations of its multiple Essences and all of the multiple Essences are somehow or other enmeshed in the creations of their expressions, and on it goes. And yet, you are such beautiful dreaming creatures; you do not understand your power of dreaming.

PAUL: So you’re saying we had a one-Quadrant view; we have a conceptualization of a four-Quadrant view, but we don’t have a fourth quadrant, we don’t understand it.

KRIS: You view the four quadrants but from a one-dimensional perspective. But whilst you are in that one-dimensional perspective you only see two of its dimensions: yourself and form.

PAUL: I can accept that for the moment.

(We all laugh.)

KRIS: Indeed.

PAUL: (Laughing) It’s okay, from where I’m at and where I’ve been.

KRIS: So do understand that any of the words that you use are still merely that. They are not the realities. They are the ways you use to explain the myths so it makes sense to your present perceptions – and they are marvelous, magical, and majestic perceptions – but they are...perceptions. (Pause) Imagine if you will, that you go play.....golf. (Kris speaks the last word almost with a reverence.)

ELLEN: (Chuckling) Ahhhhh! (My father and oldest brother are both avid golfers, and knowing that Paul too loves to play, I recognize that heavenly addiction. Kris’ voice takes on a softly seductive tone to emphasize the feeling.)

KRIS: And nothing matters but you, the club, the tee, the ball, and the green and that you are so entranced into it that, with the power of your conviction you can hit that ball with that tee and that iron, and off it goes into the eighteenth hole.

ELLEN: (Giggling) From the FIRST green!

ALAN: With three seconds left on the clock!

(We all crack up)

KRIS: (Continuing in that soft and dreamy voice:) And for that moment NOTHING else exists or matters, so powerful is your concentration!

ELLEN: Oh yeah! The zone, the zone!

KRIS: That everything else to you in that moment takes a back seat to that reality and becomes a momentary dream, an illusion, that you may have a job, a family, partners, a community, and so on. And then when that action is done, you come back and then you think THAT was a dream, and everything else is reality. And you play back and forth.

ALAN: So everything has to do with focus, just as we evolve…

KRIS: Absolutely!

ALAN: …our focus gets broader.

KRIS: As you widen that focus, as you widen that awareness, you begin to remember that indeed there is MORE than the green, the tee, the club, the ball. There is family, community, society, etc.

ELLEN: Enlightenment.

KRIS: That is where Satori comes.

ALAN: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi used to say that enlightenment was the Self unfolding itself TO Itself.

KRIS: Indeed it can be said the Self is recognizing itself. It is acknowledging what it is. Does that make sense?

ALAN: Yes, so there was nowhere to go, you were already there. It was just a matter of …

KRIS: Indeed, we could even say simply that IT is recognizing itself. So you are IT.

ELLEN: Oh, Auntie Em, Auntie Em, there’s no place like home!

KRIS: So we do leave, as you should also take rest.

(And thus Kris left the building.)

PAUL: I think he’s sending us to bed.

ELLEN: (Laughing) I think so too!

(Session ends approximately 10:00 PM)


Endnotes:

1 Mark’s note: I asked this question because I was reminded of an earlier session called “The Color of Sound” where Kris says:

“Action, activity, at that layer of consciousness is oftentimes undetectable to both your physical senses and your scientific instruments, simply because it is processed at rates or speeds that defy imagination, that even defy your notions of faster than light. And light itself is a by-product of soundlets transformation. And though light appears to contain no coloration and at the same time is stratified with color, light is a by-product of such a process. Whether you think light is a result of your sun’s processes or otherwise, your scientific research and instrumentation cannot specifically pinpoint the origin of light...nor for that matter can they even pinpoint the origin of life!”

For more info, see: [January 29, 2006]

2 Mark’s note: Kris first introduced “Soundlets” on July 19, 2004 and has expanded upon them on various other occasions.

“… One of these, the concept of sound, encapsulates many foundational blueprints for which became the seeds and the eventual flowering of the Vedic culture or civilization on your plane. We are making these references so that there is an understanding of the depths of the working of consciousness. So, you have then these concepts dealing with sound and sound in itself does not necessarily pertain or have to do with anything that your eardrums and inner ear may detect specifically, though what your eardrum and inner ear detect are certainly the byproducts, the offshoots, of such concepts. So, there are then what we would call “SOUNDLETS”, which you may spell s-o-u-n-d-l-e-t, which can be explained as miniscule particles of sounds that contain the designs necessary to create dimensions, planes, realities and existences that can be founded upon nonphysical, nonlinear representations.”

For more info, see: [July 19, 2004]

[July 26, 2004]

[August 23, 2004]

[January 29, 2006]

3 Mark’s note: Kris is referring to a civilization that existed over FOUR HUNDRED MILLION years ago. Earth, Mars, Venus and Varuun were all inhabited planets that went to war. Weapons of “mantra destruction” were used and Varuun was destroyed. Mars and Venus were left uninhabitable. Varuun became what we know today as the asteroid belt, and one of Earth’s moons was also destroyed.

For more info, see: [March 21, 2005]

[April 18, 2005]

[March 24, 2005]

[April 21, 2003]

4 Paul’s note: Kris’ comment about learning to “absorb and properly situate your own tendencies toward aggression” reminded me that our species is at a relatively young stage of development, still quite adolescent in learning to work with what Seth called natural aggression in The Nature of Personal Reality (1974).

Aggression by itself is a necessary action for manifesting and sustaining life as we know it in purely physical terms. And yet, when our belief systems of aggression remain so tied to ethnocentric, tribalistic, and nationalistic values, we tend to focus on warfare as a solution to problems. Hopefully we learned in the 20th century that this simply will not work on a global scale with over six billion focuses.

5 Paul’s note: Kris has used this metaphor before, and it was originally given by Seth in Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 (1986). So as Kris continued to explore the origins of the universe and species that he started the previous Wednesday evening, February 8th, I was reminded of the grid metaphor. Here’s something from Seth:

“The world as you know it exists as it does because you are yourself a living portion of a vast ‘conscious grid’ of perception.

“Every cell, in those terms, is a sender and a receiver. All of the larger divisions of life – the mammals, fish, birds, and so forth – are an integral part of that living gridwork. The picture of the world is not only the result of those messages transmitted and received, however, but is also caused by the relationships between those messages. In your terms, then, all of life’s large classifications were present ‘at the beginning of the world.’ Otherwise there would have been vast holes in that grid of perception that makes possible the very sensations of physical life.

“In a manner of speaking, the physical universe is ‘transposed’ upon another reality that must be its source. The world was and is created in dimensions outside of time, and outside of space as you understand it (intently).

“Other realities quite as legitimate as your own, quite as vital, quite as ‘real,’ coexist with your own, and in the terms of your understanding, ‘in the same space’ – but of course in terms of your experience those spaces and realities would appear to be quite separate. No systems are closed, however, so that basically the living grid of perception that causes one world or reality is also ‘wired into’ all other such systems. There is a give-and-take between them.

“The grids of perception that compose your world give you the world picture as you experience it because your physical senses put you in a certain position within the entire grid. Animals, for example, while part of your experience, are also ‘tuned into’ that grid at another level. The large classifications of mammals, fish, birds, men, reptiles, plants, and so forth, are [each] an integral part of that larger perceptive pattern – and that pattern in those terms had to be complete even in the beginning of your time.” P. 248-249.

6 Paul’s note: Kris had first mentioned deepening Serge’s trance state the previous Wednesday when we first broached this topic of the origins of the universe and species. At that time he asked Joanne for a glass of Merlot, and slowly sipped it during the rest of the session.

What’s interesting here is Kris’ comment that it “took all weekend to condition [Serge’s mind] to this state,” as though the exercising of the trance state allowed for deeper access to areas of what Carl Jung would have called the collective unconscious, or subconscious.

Since this was my first opportunity to directly observe Serge and Kris in and out of trance over a period of days, I learned a lot about the relationship between these two aspects that live in a single body. First, and foremost, I realized that Kris coaches Serge along as best he can to help him assimilate the material he delivers, and secondly, that it’s critical for the development of depth in the material for Serge to assimilate and interpret the material as best he can.

It’s not as if Serge is a blank slate and all the wisdom of the ages pours through him. This energy exchange is a collaborative effort, a synergy of psychological aspects. The Kris we know is what Seth called a bridge personality, neither fully Serge, nor fully Kris in his native state of attention, but a hybrid of the two. So Serge’s overall development is key to the phenomenon maturing and deepening as the years go by. And Kris is dependent on Serge’s linguistic skills, concept maps, schemas, and belief systems to deliver any material. It is a deeply cooperative venture of the highest kind.

Further, in my own research I now believe that channeling is its own developmental intelligence that unfolds in successive stages of development. So this deepening of the trance state is an important development at the tender age of fifty for Serge, because it allows Kris to access and translate more sophisticated idea complexes and idea threads, to use Kris’ terms. And these ideas are needed to build an accurate storyline with his creation mythos.

7 Paul’s note: this is a very condensed form of some of the conclusions I’ve reached in my research on this topic. It began with an abridged version and exegesis of the first five chapters of Seth’s Dreams, “Evolution,” and Value Fulfillment, Vol. 1 (2001).

Also, last year I spoke at The Conference on World Affairs at the University of Colorado in Boulder. The first panel was Creationism vs. Evolution. So that experience rekindled my interest in this area, and led me to revise my earlier essay, which is called Seth on "The Origins of the Universe and of the Species": An Integral Conscious Creation Myth It explores many related ideas as they relate to Seth, Elias, Kris, and Ken Wilber’s versions of our origins in relation to evolutionary theory, Darwinism, and many other themes.

In a nutshell, the main conclusion is that there are three broad stages of evolution to date in purely Framework 1 terms that we can call physios, bios, and noos. Physios describes all physical matter which makes up the vast majority of the physical stuff in our universe. Bios (which includes physios) describes all self-replicating biological life forms, from cells to chimpanzees which make up a very small percentage of the stuff manifest in our universe. Noos (which includes physios and bios) describes the self-aware, sentient, focuses of essences that finally manifest within a larger ecosystem or biosphere, which make up an infinitesimally small amount of stuff manifest in our universe.

This summarizes the three main classes of evolutionary processes that have occurred in our universe to date. There are likely more to come down the road if we don’t destroy ourselves and our planet beforehand. Further, when we factor in the involutionary processes outlined by Seth, Elias, Kris, Aurobindo, Wilber, and others it becomes clear that all physios is impregnated with the pure potentiality for bios, noos, and whatever may come next to manifest in physical terms (I speculate, after Wilber, that psychos and theos are next).

Put another way, the very stardust (physios) that make up those lovely clouds that span light years recently photographed by the Hubble telescope hold the pure potential to form galaxies, solar systems, planets (physiospheres), that will then support ecosystems (biospheres), that will then will support focuses of essence (noospheres) by involutionary design. The involutionary CUs or consciousness units that make up all matter impregnate them with the infinite potential to create in this general way. So focuses of essence are inherent within stardust, it’s just that there are physical processes that must work out over very, very long stretches of space-time before that can happen. But they are implicit within the very quantum fields that make up all matter (physios).

This is the “order of play” I talk about in purely physical, Framework 1, five senses terms. And yet, as we see consistently from Seth, Elias, Kris, Wilber, and others, they attempt to explicate a multidimensional cosmology that includes what we can generally call involutionary processes that complement evolutionary processes. So physios, bios, and noos are descriptors only of physically manifest aspects within the larger multidimensional construct we call All-That-Is, Kosmos, Atman, Brahman, or God.

According to Kris, All-That-Is consists of four main processes or fields of consciousness that he terms Quadrants (these are different than Wilber’s quadrants that I use in my Integral Conscious Creation research). For the gory details, see Quadrants of Consciousness.

8 Mark’s note: Origin of term “monkeylution.” This appears to be the first time that this word was used. It was meant to be a comical reference to "Darwin's Theory of Evolution" whereas mankind descended from apes and monkeys.

9 Paul’s note: Madame Blavatsky (1831-1891), the founder of Theosophy, was well known for her stance that humans didn’t evolve from the great apes.

10 Paul’s note: In hindsight, I don’t know where I found the energy and focus to engage these questions. But given the synergy of the workshop and the wonderful people we shared three days with, I got excited when Kris revisited this topic of the origins of the universe and species.

Though we didn’t touch on it in this session, the notions of Intelligent Design, Creationism, Evolutionism, and Scientism all play a part in the recent public dramas playing out in the courts, school boards, and churches in the United States where the debate has been dummied down into only Creationism (Church) vs. Evolution (State), as though they are the only two choices.

In my view, Creationism is premodern bag of superstitious nonsense, and Evolution is a modern materialist and scientismist bag of way incomplete theories. There is an emerging third choice, a postmodern version of this story that we are exploring in this and subsequent sessions.

11 Ellen’s note: I don’t think any of us caught Kris’s humorous reference to “tofurkey” at the time. Jo had gone to bed a few minutes earlier, due to exhaustion and the effects of a cold she’d been nursing all weekend, or she would probably have picked up on it right away. Kris was referring to a dish Jo had prepared back in November for a Dinner & A Dead Guy session: tofu molded and shaped into a turkey (more or less), which Jo referred to as “tofurkey.” At the time of that session, I had jokingly asked Jo if she had stuffed it.

12 Mark’s note: Netjer is ANOTHER voice that Kris has been voiced through Serge (Joseph). Kris helped facilitate and 'bridge' this ancient entity to enable the channel.

KRIS: Now we have suggested in the past that the true source of your being stands outside the flow of time and space, at least time and space as you know and understand it. There are other consciousnesses that actually come from even beyond those constraints and the Netjer is one of them. We have given them that name simply to facilitate our reference system. They are much older even though all things are timeless and eternal there are still some things in the universe that can not be defined as you understand as being defined and they travel. Clouds on your system of reality travel the atmosphere. They may see different landscapes from dry valley riverbeds to oceans to mountains, so on and so forth. There are consciousnesses that also travel they are also some that seed the universes. They themselves sprang from the creative desire of all that there is. They are ancient and the Netjer is one of those.

November 25, 2002

First Contact November 25, 2002

November 28, 2002 5PM

November 28, 2002 8:45 PM

13 Paul’s note: I-I-I describes the basic structural elements of our multidimensional identity within All-That-Is. Much like a musical scale is the basis for entire symphonies, I-I-I is the basis for individuality within All-That-Is. I-I-I describes the three main fields of consciousness outlined by Seth in The Early Sessions (1997-2002): primary pyramid gestalts (I), essence (I), and focus personalities (I). Each is holoncentric, to use Kris’ variation of the term “holon,” and thus perceives itSelf as the center of All-That-Is.

As long as we firmly keep in mind that “the map is not territory” it will always help to have an accurate map when exploring the infinite reaches of All-That-Is, particularly in the context of an emerging postmodern theory of involution/evolution in relation to the origins of our universe and species.